They were never the same again as a fighter!

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  1. moulicules

    moulicules Chessmaster Full Member

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    With the exception of Juan Manuel Marquez and to some extent Miguel Angel Cotto, all those who tasted defeat in the hands of Manny Pacquiao were never the same again. Most have slipped into oblivion. Others who continue to fight are now confined to the fringes.

    Two former undefeated prospects who suffered stoppage losses to Pacquiao are still around but they never reached the potential they were once touted for. Jorge Solis and Emmanuel Lucero of Mexico, once heralded as the next world champions in their divisions, both went down in crushing defeats to the Filipino boxing icon.

    Lucero still fights but has since went 5-10 (win loss) after that 3rd round KO loss to Pacquiao. Solis suffered three more losses, two of them in his last two fights, after he was counted out in the 8th round from vicious body blows by Pacquiao in 2007.

    Will anyone be able to still remember South Korean Seung-Kon Chae? Seung lasted just 1:42 as he was knocked out in the first round at the Araneta Coliseum in June 2000.

    Of the world champions from whom Pacquiao wrested their crowns, only two are still active – Marquez and Miguel Angel Cotto.

    Ricky Hatton, who lost his IBO super lightweight title via a devastating KO defeat, never fought again and is now a bloated bar owner in England. Former lightweight champion David Diaz is now a mere footnote in Pacquiao’s sterling boxing record. Hall of Fame bound Erik Morales is, for all intent and purposes, now a certified journeyman after suffering two knockout defeats from Pacquiao. Marco Antonio Barrera is now retired, never able to regain his lofty ranking after absorbing a stoppage defeat from Pacquiao en route to losing his lineal title as super featherweight champion. Lehlo Ledwaba has not fought since 2006. Ledwaba was bludgeoned into submission in the 6th round in losing his super bantamweight title to Pacquiao in the June 2001 undercard of the Oscar de la Hoya-Javier Castillo title fight. De la Hoya, who Pacquiao would humiliate in 2008, retired in the same year after surrendering to the Filipino champion at the end of the eight round. Thai legend Chatchai Sasakul, from whom Pacquiao wrested his first of eight division titles, would fight 34 more times but never became a world champion again, losing via a 3rd round TKO to Christian Mijares in 2008 in his attempt to win the super flyweight title.

    On Sunday, Bradley will try to break Manny’s winning streak that goes back to September 2005, a string of 15 fights.

    Bradley himself is putting his unblemished record on the line.

    History, however, is against him. Pacquiao has never lost to an undefeated fighter. Those undefeated fighters that Pacquiao met were never the same again after being administered their most painful lessons in their boxing careers.

    With history, Pacquiao has the uncanny ability to have them on his side. Good luck Bradley.

    By Edwin Espejo

    http://asiancorrespondent.com/83762/pacquiao-watch-they-were-never-the-same-again-bradley/
     
  2. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac has administered some ass whippings. I never chronicled the recipients this way.

    Nice job.
     
  3. moulicules

    moulicules Chessmaster Full Member

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    Not included in the write-ups were Margarito who suffered a cut above the eye were the one targeted by Cotto is now a B fighter
     
  4. Baldwin

    Baldwin Boxing Addict banned

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    First comes to mind is hatton and williams( get well)
     
  5. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    all things considered, juan manuel marquez deserves massive respect (if not a win or two, which is a totally different story). he's naturally smaller than most of the guys you mentioned, has had some brutal wars with pacquiao and is still going strong at nearly 40 years old.
     
  6. moulicules

    moulicules Chessmaster Full Member

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    :good
     
  7. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Never really thought of this but he did derail a lot of careers. Clottey also.
     
  8. Porgeous Porge

    Porgeous Porge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He and the Klitschkos have done a number to lots of opponents by derailing guys futures

    im trying to think of other guys who have done this
     
  9. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    bernard hopkins was the ultimate career derailer
     
  10. P.M.

    P.M. Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ever consider most since 2008 of pacs opponents were on a downward slide anyway. Clottoy was coming off a lost, Mosley hadn't won in his last two fights, mararito hadn't looked good since Mosley ko him. De La Hoya was clearly done, the only game opponent he's had beside JMM is cotto since 2009.
     
  11. kwilson71

    kwilson71 #MAYDAY Full Member

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    Some of his opponents were already on the decline

    but good read
     
  12. cpnasty

    cpnasty Fight Fan 83 Full Member

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    Barrera bounced back okay after Pac destroyed him in 03.
     
  13. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl What a bunch of ignorant nuthuggery! :lol:

    Could it be because most of the known fighters Pac fought were at the end of their careers?

    MAB- Consensus saud he was not the same after the first Morales fight. OLD
    JMM- Just kicked Pac's ass. OLD
    Morales- Kicked Pac's ass, after losing to Barrera, and then lost to Zahir Raheem, then after that loss, Arum made Moarles drop to 130 for the rematch.
    Diaz- Had arguably lost to a shot barrera.
    Hatton- Not the same after Floyd. He was almost KTFO by a shot Lazcano.
    ODLH- Was shot to **** when Pac fought him, and weight drained to ****! OLD
    Cotto-Had gotten brutally KTFO by Tony.
    Tony- KTFO by Mosley.
    Mosley- Shot to ****. OLD

    ****ing *******s are so incredibly ridiculous. :lol:
     
  14. moulicules

    moulicules Chessmaster Full Member

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    :patsch:patsch:patsch
     
  15. moulicules

    moulicules Chessmaster Full Member

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    :deal