Things a Casual would say...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Matt Petley, Jun 9, 2017.


  1. Matt Petley

    Matt Petley Active Member Full Member

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    yes i agree that the fight would be different to the fight 3 years ago but you can't say eubank is a top fighter when he isn't a world champion or hasn't beaten a top level fighter.
     
  2. dinovelvet

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    When did i say he was a top fighter? I only said he beats BJS in rematch since he has improved leaps and bounds since when they fought and Billy has stayed the same if not looked worse.
     
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  3. Matt Petley

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    haha you must not follow boxing if you think ggg ducked eubank. Matchroom had the fight on a plate for them to sign and they didn't respond to hearn by the set deadline, hearn wasn't just gonna not use the chance to have ggg fight on sky and kell brook wanted it so he accepted straight away, that says it all a welterweight was willing to fight ggg yet eubank didnt sign the fight, just used his name for publicity the fraud.
     
  4. Matt Petley

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    i'm just talking in general about saying he's a top fighter when he's not proven it.
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I followed every detail of that whole situation.

    You can't be in negotiations for one fight and then turn around and do a deal for another fight 'straight away' .
    Espically when the two fighters are on rivalling networks HBO and Showtime

    Why didn't Hearn tell tell Eubank that the fight was going to be offered to Brook?
    Why was Golovkin only too happy to accept the Brook fight , when previously he had bashed Canelo for facing Khan?
    Why did he just give up at the drop of a hat but has spent years trying to fight Canelo?

    GGG - Brook was being worked on all along behind the scenes. Just like Canleo vs Khan was.
    Nobody had a clue those fights were being put together - then out of nowhere they were signed , sealed and delivered. Dates , venues, promotional media -all sorted and was ready to go.
    The duck was the duck. Eubanks was used as a scapegoat.
     
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  6. Matt Petley

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    haha.
    Your First point - it wasn't literally a split second decision, hearn said he had a phone call for a couple of hours with brook and he wanted it, the next day it was announced.
    Your Second Point - Who are you talking about being on HBO and showtime? GGG was/is with HBO, but eubank and brook were signed to sky sports/matchroom not showtime or HBO lol.
    Your Third Point - Why should Hearn tell him, Hearn gave them a deadline (i think it was a thursday or firday at 5pm or something don't remember exact date) and they didn't sign the fight in time and brook wanted it and was ready to sign as eubank didn't sign it.
    Your Fourth point - What do you mean? GGG had signed it and it was the eubanks who were stalling negotiations for several days. GGG is not gonna turn down a fight on PPV on Sky box office and earn millions especially as no one else wanted to fight him (mainly Canelo who chose to fight Khan and then Liam Smith instead and eubank who didn't sign it)
    Your Fifth Point - What do you mean? the negotiations went on for days / weeks and hearn set a final deadline and they still didn't sign the fight (eubank). Why just continue to wait when eubank was not signing the fight and there was a fight with brook on ppv ready to sign and announce? and yes he has been trying to fight canelo for years but he hasn't just not fought and waited around, he has been fighting 2 or 3 times a year every year, same thing here, he wantedto fight eubank but he didnt sign just like canelo so GGG isnt just gonna not fight and wait for them to sign it.
    Your Sixth Point - If you have watched Hearn interviews with IFL TV you will know that they have the same ppv model for ppv fights for example AJ, Froch etc. and that was the contract that eubank would have had which he didnt sign, so brook had the same ppv model / contract that eubank would have had and that AJ and Froch had so the deal could have been agreed in 24 hours which it was.
    I'm not saying Canelo khan was the same situation, that may have been worked on behind the scenes, but Brook Vs GGG was not.
     
  7. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Another ****en alt. Jesus Christ.
     
  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    In boxing you unify the titles or beat the man who beat the man Joshua **** gobbler.
     
  9. BoxingABC1

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    which Joshua has done?
     
  10. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    No he hasn't lmao.
     
  11. DougTheThug

    DougTheThug Member Full Member

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    I've been on this forum for a good 6 months... you're just full of crap pal
     
  12. RG1885

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    I see, and when is Wilder going to do any of this stuff?
    Seeing as it looks lie AJ is tied up with Wlad, mando in Pulev then likely Parker/Whyte (if Hearns plan works out) in a unification fight for 3 of the titles, it would appear AJ is going to be doing that.
    Wilder was actually offerd very recently the chance to get in the queue for Joshua after his contractual obligations with Wlad and his mando were fulfilled, and earn good money in the meantime doing so to fight Whyte.
    What Wilder has actually done is.. turn down the offer of getting himself in line for Joshua, lost that spot to Parker/Whyte winner and then called out Ortiz knowing full well he wont fight him because of Stiverne, in the process placing himself further and further down Joshuas list of lucrative fights. So he is turning down the opportunity to get in line for a unification and he definitely hasnt beat anyone of any note never mind "the man who beat the man" and it looks like he wont be doing anything close to it soon the way he is going.
     
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  13. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    so hes not WBA & IBF champion?
     
  14. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wilder isn't going Hearns route. He would if Joshua was the champ but Joshua is nothing more than a trinket holder like Wilder and Parker.
     
  15. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah is is. He's just not the WBC or WBO champ.