Third greatest heavyweight of all time?

Janitor, you're too good to waste your words on this guy. Waste them on the rest of us instead.:good

 

No boxer has ever gotten better when they were in their 40s compared to their 20s and 30s, Moore wasnt a defensive fighter, he was a guy who came and tried to knock you out. Walcott was done as a top level fighter and the fact is he wasnt a heavyweight either by modern standards. The only reason Marciano fought these fighters because he knew they were past their best

 

Bokaj let me ignore you like people do in the real world. I bet your mom regrets not having abortion with you

 

You're feeling allright?

 

toney weighed 183 or 184 on the night he lost his 168 title to roy.
so marciano could have easily made 175 , even make a 170 catchweight with tito.
also read about carl olson , john mugabi , these caught weight.
archie moore was bigger than marciano in any (physical) aspect , including dry weight. he is an example of someone who barely made 175 (with the weight-cutting techniques known to him). again : marciano would have made 175 easily.
rocky defeated walcott for his title , a legitimate reigning world champion , and a good one , at that. unlike roy defeating ruiz and claiming he's the hw champion of the world.
rocky defended his title against the best available oponents he could get. it can't be said about jack johnson (ducked a prime langford)
nor about dempsey who wouldn't fight blacks.

 

Definitely. Marciano was naturally a 200-210 pound man. He trained himself to an insane regiment down to the 180's and that was low. Goldman kept him from limiting his eating. He would never make 175 with his bone/body structure in my opinion. He would not be able to fight at that weight. No way, not effectively at least.

 

I think George Foreman is the ONE guy who actually was a better fighter in a technical sense at age 40 than he was at age 25...... Physically speaking, no, Foreman was lean and ripped at 220 pounds back in his youth, compared to his bulky and rotund appearance at age 40...... But still, skillwise, yes, Foreman was better at age 40.....

I never liked Foreman fighting between 250 to 260 pounds for the later part of his second comeback in the late 80s thru 1997.......... I thought Foreman looked solid and strong at 244 pounds when he TKO'd clubfighter Rocky Sekorski on ESPN in 1987.....

In 1988, Foreman dipped down to 235 for Qawi...... Foreman was the leanest of his comeback, but he claimed he felt drained, and 235 quickly became 257......... Foreman was buffed and strong as an Ox for Holy at 257 pounds, but also slower than Molasses......

Again, Foreman at 40+ and 240 to 245 pounds more-than-likely would've been Foreman's optimum fighting weights........ Cheers.....

MR.BILL

 

Ay well you're a newspaper man, get diggin'.

A lot of Johnson's early folk like Denver Ed Martin and Frank Childs were some realy stern early tests and he came out with flying colours.

What if Johnson is the one who beat the broadest group of good fighters? Who says what is the criteria? Johnson gave his men a chance at least.

 

and you are also not considering dehydration before fights.
archie moore had his annorectic habbit of chewing and spitting meat to make 175 and was also taller than marciano , remember his fighting weights at heavyweights , was he out of shape then? moore was bigger than marciano . maybe marciano was fatter in the street , but still smaller.

 

Archie Moore was not naturally bigger than Rocky Marciano! Moore actually began his professional career as a welterweight, and competed successfully all the way up to heavyweight. Rocky started his professional career as a heavyweight and was always a heavyweight. During his career Marciano walked around at about 210-215 pounds, and he was not fat at that weight!

 

Taller ? Yes, half an inch , wow !

 

Sonny Liston. Cleaned out the division with a shuvel and bucket.