This era of Welterweights is/was trash

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    True but a Mexican fighter will never get the Twink treatment. Clenelo actually is/was the ''face of boxing'' and whilst some of the stuff I mentioned also appllies to him and his career there is actually a lot of substance there and he has a great resume.
     
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  2. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A mediocre division with very good marketing, that’s What It pretty much was.

    Haymon and the other handlers of PBC were probably happier than everyone that Crawford was with Arum. With one guy head and shoulders above the rest, their WW scene would’ve been a lot less interesting.
     
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  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was never really hyped. It's been a mishmash of good fighters hovering around the top since around 2016. Never heard much praise for how good the WW division was in a LONG while.
     
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  4. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What always bothered me about welterweight since PBC’s takeover, is the inbetween fights that these “Top” guy’s were taking to jump from title shot to title shot with each other. Very low level, complete nobodies.

    Adrian Granados
    Eric Bone
    Ivan Redkach
    Mike Dallas jnr
    Abel Ramos
    Sebastian Formella
    Samuel Vargas
    etc.

    Prospects fight better competition.
     
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  5. Sks476

    Sks476 Active Member Full Member

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    There was a crossover with some of these fighting some excellent fighters from the previous era. Current WW division is not so good though, 1 elite, a few very good and not much else.
     
  6. lepinthehood

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    Agreed on this one tinman.
     
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  7. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The over-marinating of this division and the waiting, waiting, waiting, on the top guys fighting each other (with a couple of exceptions) soured welterweight. Similar to heavyweight.
     
  8. BVA

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    Crawford, Ennis, Stanionis 3 good fighters that's it. (Spence looked awful, is moving up and will be damaged goods now)

    So probably one of the weakest divisions in boxing right now, when you compare it to the likes of Lightweight and Light Heavyweight which are stacked.
     
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  9. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What a post :clap:
     
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  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's very good but not elite. He barely beat Shawn Porter. Kell Brook beat Porter more convincingly and also was winning their fight before his eye injury from the Golovkin fight happened again. Kell Brook I'd argue is better than Spence, difference is Spence got the hype and the opportunities Brook never got, so he had a better career.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So how is the current cruiserweight division better, again? Or the "best?"

    You seem to want to compare the current welterweight division with a cruiserweight division that ceased to exist FIVE YEARS AGO.

    Badou Jack is a cruiserweight champ, for god's sake. So is Chris Billiam Smith, and Lawrence Okolie, who he knocked off, wasn't exactly great himself.

    The "great era" of cruiserweights you seem to want to compare this group of welters to lasted in terms of "months" ... like 24 months ... two years or so. That's not an era. The best of them left five years ago.

    This welterweight "era" began in 2015 or so and is now petering out ... eight years down the road. Still, Bud Crawford hasn't left welterweight yet. He's the world champion. Spence hasn't left yet. Neither has Ennis. Neither has Thurman.

    When they do leave, so be it. But the best of the cruisers left a half a decade ago.

    By the end of this year, Usyk will be a heavyweight champion longer than he was a cruiserweight champion.
     
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  12. howard29

    howard29 Member Full Member

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    The Welterweight division hasn't been truly great since Leonard and Hearns were in the mix, if you want the truth.
     
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  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Even that era had its mismatches, in all honesty.

    But Al Haymon really loves his welterweights. He does hype them all up and tries to stockpile boxers in that general area. He wanted Floyd to move to welterweight. He's got a boner for welterweights about as badly as Sulaiman does for making more green belts.
     
  14. Serge

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    Thanks comrade
     
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