This footage finally ends all debate about 'Modern vs old'.

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  1. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    I was clearing out my loft for some of my old boxing memorabilia to see if I could find any old gems to bring down to my local Boston Tavern to share with @BitPlayerVesti , @sheamus , @cross_trainer and @klompton2 .

    Alongside a hand signed glove by Philadelphia Jack O'Brien and a first edition Jackie Blackburn biography, I came across some old film reel that might finally dispel the myth that fighters are better today than yesteryear. Now I understand that I could auction this off for a heavy price. I'm fully aware of that, but since it's a travesty that we have no fight footage of Hurricane Harry Greb, I simply couldn't risk this footage being lost forever.

    It is shadow boxing by the Giant Primo Carnera. Skip to 30 seconds for the main part. It is astonishing to me that a man of this size could resemble a frantic Tasmanian devil with the high speed, angles and footwork that would put any fighter to shame in today's climate. However, the most impressive thing is the way he torques away with violent combinations. You can tell he is transferring his full body weight into every shot - a real lost art. He is fully tensed to maximise his power output. Bare in mind, black and white footage can appear to make the fighter slower yet we still need to play this in slow motion to notice the nuances that Carnera is displaying. I've never seen anything quite like it.

    I thought I'd share. Thanks.

     
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  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Not here for the fairy tales Full Member

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    That was even weirder than I expected (the relevant excerpt):
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    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    nope.
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Some folks have a lot of free time.
     
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    Sparky 67 New Member Full Member

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    Can't argue with that
     
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    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he had no Boxing Talent whatsoever. you are imagining Things.
     
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  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Bergeron Avatar Club Full Member

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    This footage is fake.

    Muhammad Ali invented the human fist in 1965.
     
  10. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    Wow! Each blow launched by this colossus is perfectly timed, one motion beginning only after the other has been completed!
     
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    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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  12. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    Bumped for modernist @Seamus

    Compare the above clip of Primo Carnera to the video below of Anthony Joshua

    Primo, despite being several inches taller & 50 pounds heavier than AJ, is still able to match, or get close to his speed - and that's him transferring his full body weight into every shot.

     
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  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Not here for the fairy tales Full Member

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    Joshua is practically Primo's spitting image:

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  14. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny how the O/P has to take a clip of a guy who was ridiculed even in his own time as an example of how bad boxers were back then. Funny that Vitali Klitchko strongly resembled oafs like Willard and yet he was pretty dominant in the modern era. The more things change the more they stay the same...
     
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  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

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    More interested in the Jack Blackburn bio that is if one was ever written