This Is An Illustration of Why Compubox #'s Should Be Banished

Wash woman indeed

 

Wow, Joe looks like such a douche.

 

Nice headbutt by Nard in there too.

 

Hopkins landed cleaner harder punches for sure. Joe barely landed any clean punch, most of them being arm punches that hit air or hit Hopkins shoulders and gloves. Joe just won by being more active of the two without landing any thing significant the entire fight.

Compubox numbers in that fight are indeed very misleading. But judges dont use compubox numbers in scoring so its a non factor in the decision.

 

In this case thats how the entire fight went.

 

that one punch didn't semi land, it landed on Hopkins' arm

 

I don't think the fight is as simple as the classic quality over quantity aspect. It steps out of that question and into another dimension--

the reality of the punches.

It looks like somebody went in and digitally edited the film.

Whenever Calzaghe threw a punch, they deleted the parts where he followed through or appeared to have intended to land the punch, had he thrown it.

 

Hopkins has a good counter Heabutt followed by a right.

 

He's not.

He's showing that Compubox is not exactly reliable.

The mere mathematics of counting the number of punches does not fit with the pro boxing scoring mechanic.

ie: Chris Byrd lands 40 jabs. David Tua lands one left hook - now mathematically - 40 is a lot more than 1. Personally - I'll take the 40 over the one!

 

Ive never put much stock in compubox. All it every seems to me is like a little thing Jim Lampley and HBO use to make there favorites look better or something fans use to scream robbery all the time. Example according to compubox DLH raped Mosley in the rematch but if you really watch the fight and not get caught up in Lampleys nuthugging or the crowd noise you will see what the judges,press judges,ringside fighters seen and thats DLH throwing shots missing all of them and Shane landing loud,thudding power shots which is one of the criteria for scoring a fight clean,effective punching.

 

I like both parts of your post you said what ive been trying to say over a 3 period. That is that sure Hopkins was landing the cleaner and probablly harder punches agianst Calzaghe just like he did vs Taylor in both fights and made them miss alot but he just doesnt throw enough. I mean lets look at it in those 3 particular Hopkins fights hed throw lets say about 15 punches a round landing 8-9 clean right hands which is nice but his opponet will be throwing 50-60 punches overall every round which leaves a bigger impression on the judges because that mean is actually doing more in the fight. I also like your last part compubox isnt used in scoring fights the judges dont get to see the numbers during the fights and cant use it so it is a non factor and therefore I dont see why the thread starter thinks it should be banished. Its like saying the unoffical judge Harold Lederman or the press judges should be banished because there scores arent offical.

 

Of course quality over quantity but quality has to be significant. You cant land 2-3 clean punches a round and expect the judges to give you the round.