This Is An Illustration of Why Compubox #'s Should Be Banished

Umm, his hand hit below Bernards belt. It was a low blow. End of Story.

 

Calzaghe W12 Hopkins. End of Story.

 

Because it was the context of most of the fight.

I mean, I had Joe winning 7-5 (minus the KD), but there were a ton of close rounds...and only close because Joe threw so much, compared to Bernard landing telling blows (3 of the 4 air tight close rounds I went with Joe). Go back and watch that fight and count how many clean, hard shots he landed on Hopkins....its MAYBE 5 at most. While Bernard would land hard and clean almost everytime he threw.

There is analysing a fight, post fight time...and there is totally ignoring the facts of what went on during the fight.

Fact is, Bernard landed MANY, MANY more clean hard shots...while Joe thew and landed alot more total punches. Score it how you want (the aggressor or the cleaner puncher), but dont try to distort the truth.

 

Beyond wrong....learn the rules.

A low blow is a punch that lands BENEATH the beltline. Both that Calzaghe landed were beneath (the ones he was warned for)...it doesnt matter if its a grazing shot or a monsterous uppercut to the baby maker...its still a low blow. And on a low blow, the fighter has 5 minutes to recover from it (whether he needs it or not)...Hop took about 3.

Again, learn the rules.

 

I think you are half/missing what I was getting at with that.

Obviously, Calzaghe landed more than just a glancing shot on the shoulder and the rest air throughout the fight.

The point (and I believe the original point of the original poster as well) was, Joe threw ALOT and when he hit, it was RARELY anything telling or clean....Bernard on the other hand threw little in comparison, yet the majority of what he landed was telling and clean. So basically, his one land for every 2 of Calzaghe's was harder...cleaner...etc.

Again, many times in this fight, I also went with the aggressor...but to say that my above statement (or the point of the post...I believe at least the point of the post/gif) is wrong and isnt the context of the fight is wrong.

Fact is, that fight was close...a HELL of alot closer than most of the Calzaghe fans or people picking Joe want to admit...and if you scored for the aggressor, I can see 8-4, but if you went with the clean puncher, then you could see it a hell of alot closer.

I think compubox has its place...and sometimes tells the story of the fight...but not in this case. I had Joe winning, but Im sorry, I cant fault people for feeling 1 hard, clean shot out of 4 punches, is better than 3 grazing blows with no emphasis out of 9.

 

Totally agree...but to say he is a cheat for it and try to change the rules like that last guy is ridiculous.

Again, you got 5 mins...you can use them to recover from the low blow, recover evergy.....or whip up a batch of cupcakes in an easy bake oven....and as long as you dont take more than 5....your well within the rules.

 

That head-butt is a disgrace.

 

The Compubox number's are beyond ridiculous. If anyone wants to take 10 minutes and watch the 2nd round in slow-motion you'll see what I'm talking about. They had 13 power punches landing for Calzaghe. If anyone can find 5 punches landing for Calzaghe in that round I'll be very impressed. Also keep in mind that Compubox counts taps to the body and head during clenches as "power punches" since they aren't jabs. You may also notice that Hopkins lands the only 2 significant punches in that round - a left counter at 1:55 and a straight right at 1:28.

 

At least it's recognizable. Name Joe's first punch in that sequence.

I don't really think this .gif is the entire fight in microcosm. Half of it though, you bet.

 

bitter are we?:yep

 

yawn

 

Hopkins should have a boxing glove attatched to the top of his head.

 

AHH DON"T worry ACB i KNOW what your intentions were in regards to the system used to count punches for a fight being so inaccurate or flawed.the fact that so many fan use this system to back up their cliam is funny but it's the best system we have at this time so we have to make due with what we have . i know you used the most recent fight as an example :yep