This Is An Illustration of Why Compubox #'s Should Be Banished

Any round...you will see Calzaghe as the aggressor, landing glancing shots mostly...very, VERY few clean. You will also see Hopkins throwing MUCH, much less than Joe, but most of what lands is clean and telling. Doesnt matter which round, or how much of a clip you look at.

After taking this as fact, you either side with the aggressor or the fighter landing the more telling shots. As I said, I saw 4 rounds that could have went either way, depending of course on what you held more important of the two above. I myself gave Calzaghe 3 of those rounds....and the fight to him as well. Doesnt change the facts above tho.

 

The main crux of the thread has a lot of validity. Joe's fans need to stop being so defensive, he looked sloppy in the clip, very sloppy, it's not even debatable. If a clip of another recent fight could be found to illustrate the point so effectively, i'm sure it would have been. Alas it was not to be, none could be found, but it shows perfectly the flawed scoring that takes place under compubox, be it in this fight or any other. It's a **** poor system that needs to be dropped.

 

I don't see the point in abolishing Compubox, it's not like the judges use it.

 

Not sure if I misunderstood your post, but that gif is from ending seconds of round 7.

 

very good post

 

If you watched the fight you would know that was a later Calzaghe round where the HBO crew gave him credit for all those shots. When he jabbed and missed by a mile they talked about him being effective with the jab...though he missed by a mile. If you mute them clowns out like I do religiously the fight was a close fight with Calzaghe winning but he did not land **** but 3 good punches.

 

Some fighters even seem to buy into it (or at least lie to themselves). Some may have seen the recent Calzaghe interview where he uses the compubox numbers as proof of how much he outlanded Hopkins. He even believes based on these numbers he's landed more punches on Hopkins then any fighter ever has.

 

Yeah, I think the HBO crew AND compubox are both slightly slanting history... in the sense that perhaps in 50 to 100 years time, the only footage of a lot of fights will be the HBO version, and compubox numbers.

This could be misleading.

But at the same time, both have an equal amount of chance of being abolished... 0

 

Boxing is a subjective sport. People will always argue about decisions. My father gets pissed everytime someone mentions Hagler vs. Leonard and there was no compubox back then. I don't think many overseas networks use compubox or a similar system, yet foriegn fight fans still argue decisions. It adds to arguments, but none the less, there would still be arguments regardless.

 

You are talking like Compubox is influencing fight scoring.

let me assure you it is not. Judges have no idea of compubox numbers.

Remember also that number and quality of punches landed are not the only factor considered when scoring a fight.

 

You dont have to land with a jab for it to be effective. atsch

 

Not a soul actually has said that. They are saying that compubox stats tend to sway people AFTER the fight..and hardly tell the whole truth of the fight.

Go look at pretty much everyone who says Calzaghe blew Hopkins out (some actually have it as wide as 10-2 with the KD?!?!?!?), they all point toward the punch stats as some great barometer...when in truth, it is very decieving in a fight like this.

 

Compubox sways ignorant people after the fight.

I say Calzaghe won 117-112 but that was based on Ring Generalship, effective aggression and defense.....and before anyone makes me yawn about teh lack of clean punches landed by Calzaghe for effective aggression....what Joe did score higher than punch, headbut, hold