***This is how the negotiations really went down... PAC/HATTON***

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by WiDDoW_MaKeR, Jan 22, 2009.


  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That was better than my last 10 posts together! Lol! :D
     
  2. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Yes sir.

    We asian so stupid speaky english an so greedy also, sir.

    Apologies for asking for wat I feel is due to me, sir.

    So solly.

    *kowtow, kiss your feet*
     
  3. stuey

    stuey Never bet on England Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl great post.

    this fight is far from dead imo.

    give it a fortnight, it'll be back on:deal
     
  4. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, not that part of course. The pictures told the story very well without the comments (english not being my first language I didn't even realise the offense of the content.)
     
  5. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Whatever, guys.

    I'm out.

    See you tomorrow.
     
  6. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Widdow, you are an absolute tool sometimes. But this is a ****ing great post. :D
     
  7. Theo

    Theo Active Member Full Member

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    made me laugh ;)
     
  8. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    Every culture puts great store in respect Bula,but Pac has gone too far here.This is greed pure and simple.
    I know you want to defend him,but Hatton has self respect too,and respect for the sport,hence his willingness to make this fight to the point where he made the necessary concessions to Manny.
    So Manny still moves the goal posts,depriving the fans of the fight.
    That sucks,regardless of respect.
     
  9. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    Oh great thread btw Widdow.:good:lol::lol::lol:
     
  10. lucatoni08

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  11. thesham01

    thesham01 Undisputed Champion Full Member

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    :lol:
    how long that take ya??
     
  12. Theo

    Theo Active Member Full Member

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    but there are 2 people involved here in a world wide sport. one brings all the talent to the table and the other brings all the money. simple as to be honest.

    in england our idea or respect if for everything to be throw to the side, and for us to say, lets split it down the middle and do this.
     
  13. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Bula, I mean no disrespect to you or your asian counterparts. I was simply typing for accuracy... to give everyone a good mental picture. Nobody needs to take that as disrespect. I am sure that I would sound a lot more hilarious trying to speak Manny's language than he does speaking English.

    To answer your post though... Manny has a funny way of showing that this is NOT about the money.
     
  14. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do any of us have all the facts? I know I don't. To me, what seems to be rubbing Pac. the wrong way is that Arum made an early deal without Manny's consent, and that pissed him off from the get go, and I do believe it is cultural thing, regarding "proper negotiations" and Manny is taking it as disrespect.

    I'm a white American dude and I do business with people of many different cultures, and as a whole there certainly are differences with the way deals are made from one culture to the next. Add to this the dealings I do are done in the US, so if anything, the different cultures I've dealt with have actually diluted their methodology to be able conduct business here.

    So here's Manny, the P4P champ, an icon in his homeland, a proud guy, with a lot of capital and the responsibility to represent his homeland properly, and he's not been involved from the get go in the biggest negotiation of his career, and he has stated that this is a huge problem. I believe him.

    Initially my American perspective was, "What the F%$& is Manny thinking?, if I were him I'd take the money and run!!!" But I'll be the first to admit, be it cultural or just the way I am (probably a bit of both), I want the money first as long as it's ethical, and if I need to make concessions I don't give a crap, I don't have much pride when it comes to making deals, as long as it's reasonably fair. But I know, that many people and cultures, place a great deal of emphasis on the honor, tradition, even the ritual of conducting a proper and respectful negotiation, and I think that's what Manny has done here.
     
  15. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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