This is how you fight a Man who's bigger.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Joe E, Jul 3, 2011.


  1. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :goodI agree, Its a class act
     
  2. Bummy Davis

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  3. Seamus

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    I love your oldschool insight but Buddy Baer was a right measure slower than Wlad who, tho infuriatingly cautious, has excellent punch speed and when he choses combo speed. Wlad also has a better rounded arsenal, follows a winning game plan, controls space and distance over both fighters smaller and larger and has recently shown something of a beard.

    And Max Baer is tailor made for a boring affair in which Wlad stifles his amateur roundhouses and pummels him to death with the left. Sorry, Max had skills. He just rarely exhibited them in the ring. Max wins maybe one out of ten versus the Manny-trained Wlad. He is just too obvious. You would have to black out whiskey drunk not to see what is going to throw next... or just off the breadlines.
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    Well said. :good
     
  5. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    :deal
     
  6. Conn

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    Buddy Baer was a pretty good fighter.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    Didn't Billy Conn as a kid match up well in a spar vs then world champ Max Baer?
     
  8. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Beat me to it.

    There is a chapter in that book Sweet William the life of Billy Conn that describes that spar. Billy was a middleweight at the time and I have read that after the sparring, Max said that he (Billy) will become a champion.
    I am gonna add this in reply of all the BS I have read in this thread.
    Old school guys were fearless. And the mechanical Klitschkos would know if they had a prime Louis or Conn in front of them.
     
  9. Ncc84

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    If wlad adopted buddy baer's style of resting his forehead on his opponents shoulder, haye might have found him a little easier to hit.
     
  10. Conn

    Conn Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    yes but not with the bad toe
     
  11. punchy

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    The Klits are much better than Abe Simon and Buddy Baer, Baer seems to be trying to smother Louis which we now know is fatal, the Klits are the best big men we have ever seen in the HW division that doesn't mean they would beat Louis but they would give him a hell of a fight.
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    Lennox Lewis might have something to say about that.
     
  13. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    my wife got me a joe louis collection as a surprise the other day, all the baer fights are included. i had to really rethink my view of ali as clear #1 heavyweight. i still have him at the top but louis in his prime was a phenom
     
  14. Kid Bacon

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    Buddy Baer is fine. But, can Primo Carnera be qualified as a world class opponent?

    Just asking :hey
     
  15. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    former heavyweight champion gives him some street cred. he was clumsy and awkward as all ****, plus past his prime but he used his size very well and raked up some (legitimate) good wins in his time