This is the greatest heavyweight of all time

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  1. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    *chuckle*
    Okay.
     
  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He did beat Joe Louis
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    And he forgot Max Baer too
     
  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Williams at that point was shot, literally
     
  5. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Schmeiling beat Jose Santa, Who was much bigger than Rahman or McCall. That's not to say by any stretch that Santa was anywhere close to their level, but if we're isolating size...
    6'9", 250+ and single digit body fat.
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  6. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only thing that undisputed is that this guy won’t be needing any belts for Christmas, to hold his pants up.
     
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  7. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Ali goes through Lewis' list of opponents without getting stopped. Ali constantly got hit cleanly throughout his career and Lewis quite clearly faced a bigger list of bigger punchers than Ali did.

    That doesn't mean I rate Ali above Lewis, but let's be real here. Ali for his era fought all the punchers, there's no debating that, but apart from one or two exceptions, Lewis consistently faced harder hitters.
     
  8. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Was that footage from an actual fight ? I looked like from a film.
     
  9. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a shame this guy didn't have a decent trainer. If he employed the more modern jab, jab, grab style he could have been ridiculously effective. I couldn't to help but chuckle watching him fighting someone nearly 1 foot out of a crouch.
     
  10. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't need a statistician to see that Lewis didn't face many quality opponents the size of Joe Joyce or Anthony Joshua and almost always had a height advantage over his opponents. I think his era is weaker than the present era.
     
  11. VVMM

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    I doubt it. Lewis could beat decent fighters who were taller than him (Akinwande,Grant,Vitali Klitschko). and maybe Lewis wasn't taller
    than Tony Tucker.
    Otherwise i think Vitali Klitschko was the fighter who never beat a decent very tall or taller fighter. Just saying.
     
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  12. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciano was nine years younger than Louis. It's not as if Lewis was a young man against Tyson and Holyfield. He was 33 in the first Holyfield fight, 34 in the rematch, 36 against Tyson. A lot of fighters have losses and bad performances written off because they were "old" in their mid/late-30s but for some reason Lewis is never allowed that luxury. Instead he gets criticized for not coming back for a rematch with a 6'7 250lb younger man at the age of 38.
     
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  13. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What have you seen to suggest Ali wouldve been stopped by some of Lewis's opponents when lLewis himself didn't stop a blown up cruiserweight over 24rds an old blown up cruiserweight at that. But the Irony is for the size is all dominating kings, Lewis in his very next fight after 24rds wirh Holyfield went out and blew away M.Grant all 6'7" almost 260 lbs of him in 2rds. Guess Grant's size didn't do much for him. Skills dude . Any fighter over 200 lbs have the capability of ko'ing or beating any fighter over 230 lbs if he is better trained and in fighting shape. It's been proven to many times to count over a 100yrs
     
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  14. mcvey

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    Excellent points!
     
  15. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I base my point on the fact that Ali constantly got caught with clean shots throughout his career and that Lewis faced the biggest set of punchers out of any heavyweight in history. All of hate out said is fair though, I don't disagree with very little of it. If you want to put a 60s Ali in every single matchup against Lewis' opponents then things might be different,