This Is What Happens To Wladimir If He Fought Joe Louis

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  1. Flea Man

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    I don't have fanboys!!!

    Either way, last few posts :good And you're not 'helping me out', if anything for once we're just agreeing on something :D
     
  2. Flea Man

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    Bowe also had a very gold jab and to counteract Wlad's lack of inside game had a brilliant inside game for a big man.

    Bowe, easy to hit, but pretty tough as well. He put his shots together well when in shape. I wouldn't be too worried about him here.
     
  3. TFFP

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    I think the Klitschko's (Vitali at his prime - i.e. not now) would be difficult for Louis. We have to be objective about that, the size difference is gigantic, and its not just that, its the ability to go with it.
     
  4. Bowe would execute Wlad.

    Wouldn't be pretty at all I'm afraid.
     
  5. The Batkilt

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    I think Wladimir's size would prevent Louis with problems, but I'm not unconvinced that Louis couldn't take a shot from Wladimir and not keep going. He had a good chin, and I think he'd be able to sustain Wladimir's best efforts. If he could get inside Wladimir's reach, which I think he would, he'd be able to land cleanly and hurt Wladimir. He'd also have the killer instinct to take advantage when Wladimir looked wobbled.

    I don't buy that the Klitschkos are the worst heavyweight champions ever and that every champion before them would beat them, but Louis is one I definitely think would.
     
  6. TFFP

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    Louis's chin was good, but fallible.
     
  7. Black2023

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    What so funny I was in the Daily Mail offices (library) 2 years ago they have copies since the start of what they have printed interesting reading.

    The funniest being how Ali was finished after the first Frazier loss.
     
  8. Black2023

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    Which Bowe? I mean the guy lasted about 3 years...on the way up he lost to Tubbs, by the end of his 8 year carrer was getting beaten up by Golota who every good heavyweight knocked the **** out.
     
  9. Flea Man

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    His chin wasn't great but his powers of recovery, and poise under fire, were.

    Besides, both Klitschkos rarely score one shot K.Os nor are they particularly efficient finishers so I think Louis can find his way back into the fight if hurt.
     
  10. The Batkilt

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    Wladimir seems to be the harder hitter of the two, whereas Vitali breaks people down with the volume of his punches. And being that he's been more cautious since suffering those KO losses years ago, Wladimir would likely not go in for the kill if he knocked Louis down and would effectively give Louis that chance to recover and get back into the fight.
     
  11. TFFP

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    I don't think Vitali is much of a puncher at all in a historical context.

    Wladimir though I've a feeling is a really big puncher, my theory is apart from throwing far too few power shots compared to most heavyweights a good 90% of his shots are straight right hands that even if his opponent can't dodge they can tense and prepare for the impact which helps. Yet he still has the ability to put people away with it. I think it'd be tough for Louis to take too many of them being realistic.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    I will add that on Wlad's part it's lack of confidence that doesn't see him genuinely bombing people out too often . Glad we saw more of his left hook, his most powerful punch, last night, and he's obviously a very hard puncher with the right as well.

    Whilst the multiple knockdowns of poor versions of Rahman and Peter didn't really impress me, the one shot K.Os of Austin and Chambers were much more like it.

    Wlad is likely one of the hardest hitters in the history of the division. He's a physical specimen expertly tuned with good technique and picks his spots patiently but well, and usually against negative/safety first opposition.

    MagnaNasaki, who has extensively sparred Lennox (been floored by him) George Foreman (said his power was sickening) and Wlad, said there was nothing that compared to the power of Klitschko.

    That is massive praise from a highly commendable source.
     
  13. Black2023

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    Again this is pure dogma, venomus hate for guys that are on top...when these two brothers go are we gonna here hate for the next dominant heavy>

    Were any of you around when people kept Saying Lewis was ****? Holyfield was too small?

    The only heavyweight in my time 81 onwards that got props straight away was Tyson, everyone else got heckled and derided time and time again-

    Holmes
    Holyfield
    Lewis
    Both Klitshckos

    Bowe last such a short period of time, that he was called shot by 1994..

    It never ends.



    Anyways the next greats could easily come out of the 2012 Olympics-

    I. Dychko 21
    E. Savon 21
    P. Hrgovic 19
    O. Usyk 25
    A. Joshua 22

    All hugely talented, bar Uysk all big heavyweights, and all would would beat alot of good heavyweights already.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    I think the posts above show Wlad is getting a lot of respect actually.

    As for the amateurs, a talented bunch but fairly spurious claims of them being pro successes at this stage IMO. Saying that, Joshua's win over the massively talente and experienced Cammarelle, well those are impressive credentials for a relative novice.
     
  15. Flea Man

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    And no, Bowe didn't have much longevity. That's not usually a deciding factor when discussing pointless hypothetical matchups. I don't think many would claim Bowe has a stronger legacy than Wlad, despite having the best single win/opponent of the two. His gluttony, for both food and punishment, as well as his short time at the top, ducking of Lewis and two beatings at the hands of Golota, are all well-documented. But he was talented, no doubt about it.