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  1. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After Roy Jones was knocked out by Glen Johnson his legacy didnt seem to matter anymore. Fighting became just part of his career.

    What other champions lost their desire for greatness after a certain point?

    Does this harm their place in history or is it cemented by work already done?
     
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  2. brickfists

    brickfists The Nonpareil Full Member

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    after pbf start getting big paydays noting else mattered especially not his legacy
     
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  3. hugo

    hugo Active Member Full Member

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    After reading the topic I thought you were suggesting a great way of earning money (without actually boxing yourself - but still having to do with boxing). bla.
     
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  4. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its not about losing a 'desire for greatness' necessarily.

    you have to be 'switched on' when you fight and losing that spark through desire or age can easily set you back amongst the also-rans.


    like any sport.
     
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  5. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roys fights against Tarver (III) and Calzaghe seemed to be a chance at just "lasting" against his opponent. What good did this do?
     
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  6. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    none at all.

    formula one drivers race sportscars locally or fall back into some other form of lesser motorsports once they retire from formula one because they love what they do.

    boxers are exactly the same except there isn't the option to 'dropa dvision or two' in terms of skill.

    fighters carry on past their prime because they love to fight - and they dont care about their records when they do it. it's just in their blood.
     
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  7. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Doesnt it count for more when they bow out at the right time?
     
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  8. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    actually i think it counts for less when they don't.

    sure if jones retired after ruiz or tarver1 it would look better.

    but i dont think anyone who saw roy jones fight in his prime is going to think less of his ability as a great fighter because he lost after his prime.
     
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  9. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Surprisingly, in serveral tv interviews, the great sugar Ray Robinson admitted that he never loved boxing...that he just did it to pay the bills and because he was good at it. It's hard to believe such a special talent had no love for the sport that made him famous...but that is what he said.
     
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  10. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By that thinking couldnt you put Tyson as the greatest fighter of all time?
     
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  11. heidegger

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    yeah he's a strange one..mildly retarted...all part of the enigma that makes him the greatest.
     
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  12. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    because he was a wrecking ball?

    tyson was intimitading and destructive but jones was just off the planet skillwise. its always a can of worms doing these 'what if's'.
     
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  13. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True. But thats not the question.

    Do you carry on when youre legacy could be damaged or do you call it quits?

    And what brings a fighter to this decision?
     
    Neverchair, Nov 25, 2008
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  14. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it's only the fans who consider the legacy to be honest as a 'spoiler' for carrying on fighting when you're past it.

    if you love fighting you fight. when you're good at it and you enjoy it you don't just stop because the record books say that you're going to get more black marks by carrying on.

    think of it like being bad at school but good at sports so you keep going to school to do what you enjoy - screw the marks.
     
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  15. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again true but you cant deny that going out at the top is better than suffering humiliating losses when you neednt?
     
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