This is what I've been told about Wilder so if you can help me out.

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  1. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    please do.

    I was told that Wilder Joshua can't happen because if Wlad doesn't do the rematch with Joshua then he has to face Pulev. If Wlad takes the fight then everything is null and void for now. Joshua received the exemption anyway, and will face Pulev afterwards. Now Wilder has been waiting on Joshua to see if he can get a fight. Wlad hasn't made a decision yet. What if Wlad retires, is that exemption good so that joshua can participate in a unification fight with Wilder? Wait, my bad. According to some here Wilder's fanbase apparently isn't as good as Martin or Brazeale's which is why they got the fight with Joshua. But that's neither here nor there.

    But answer me this. Doesn't Wilder have a mandatory himself?

    How did Wilder duck Whyte when he has a mandatory himself?

    Oh because he beat Stiverne already he should give up his belt, fight Whyte and if the Brits and Hearn approve he can fight Joshua. Or ask for an exemption with the WBC keep his belt so that he can fight Whyte, and then Joshua.

    What if Fury jumps back into the picture? There are a bunch of mitigating factors as to why Wilder won't drop his belt or fight Whyte outside of the mandatory. He doesn't trust Joshua or Hearn are the main ones. I wouldn't either. The fact that Joshua is even entertaining a fight with Pulev is proof. Now I'm all for facing your mandatory, but why does Joshua get a pass and Wilder doesn't?

    And can you say something fanatics who do decide to comment say something other than the same ******ed mess that you vent every day to protect Joshua and his rep that us boxing fans truly don't care about? This is for the devoted boxing fans, and you Brits can chime in though nobody cares what you think anyway-not all of you, just the Joshua **** gobblers. Same goes for a few of you **** gobbling Wlad fanatics.

    And if im wrong anywhere along the way, just politely correct me and I'll
     
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    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Get a ****ing job
     
  3. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Wilder has had FIVE optional fights with no politics or Mandatory involved and has fought 5 bums. Case closed.
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nice retort. Now perhaps you can address his points.

    Nah, you can't.

    Next.
     
  5. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I can't. He's too intellectual for me. I don't want to get schooled. I want to be on u

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  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What do you mean by "no politics"?

    He was supposed to fight Povetkin in January or February 2016. That was the date set for the mandatory by the WBC. Povetkin's camp took a November 2015 fight and sent an emissary to the WBC convention in China and said, "NO, we aren't ready, we want to delay."

    So it was set up for later. Bids went out. Contracts were signed. And Povetkin failed a drug test.

    The WBC choose not to ban Povetkin UNLESS it was proven in court in the lawsuit between Wilder and Povetkin to the satisfaction of a jury that Povetkin had, indeed, ingested meldonium after the Jan. 1 2016 ban date -- and the jury DID rule that he had done so after hearing scientific experts on both sides.

    In the meantime, since PEDvetkin wasn't available, Wilder was granted the right to fight another voluntary defense -- is it your position that if Fighter A fails a drug test, that his opponent, Fighter B, should not be allowed to make a living because his opponent cheated?

    Oh, so they set up Povetkin vs. Stiverne to create a new mandatory. And PEDvetkin got popped AGAIN, this time for ANOTHER (and this time anabolic) substance. So he got banned.

    The WBC did not name a mandatory at this time because Povetkin-Stiverne did not take place and there was due process with Povetkin (since banned indefinitely from fighting for any WBC belt). So, yes, he fought a fifth voluntary.

    The rules say a fighter has to fight a mandatory within a year. Wilder was the mandatory when he won the WBC strap from Povetkin in January 2015. In January 2016, POVETKIN DECLINED TO TAKE THE FIGHT AND ASKED FOR MORE TIME. So he was quite willing (and even signed contracts to do so) but the Russian PED doper wasn't ready. Needed more time to cycle, obviously.

    So this is Wilder's fault? Nice agenda. SMH.
     
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    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You want to be "on" me? No thanks.
     
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    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    ****ing fist me with a flaming fist!
     
  9. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Maybe your ***** ass should have appreciated Wlads willingness and ability to face top 10 fighters and make unification fights. Those days are over. Welcome to alpha soup hell.
     
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    I have Pac stopping Horn in the rematch.
     
  11. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Damn! Lol
     
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    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    What a dumbass response, lmao. ****en dumb!
     
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    None of that has anything to do with Wilder's team handpicking 5 absolute bums for optional defenses. When Joshua had an optional fight he picked Wlad who despite being 41 and passed it is far better than anyone on Wilder's pathetic and embarrassing resume. The guy had 5 chances to fight someone decent yet time after time kept fighting the Molina's and Szpilka's of the division. That doesn't have **** to do with Povetkin "wanting more time". Do you understand this? Instead of fighting top 10 opponents he picked from the bottom of the barrel not once not twice not three times but FIVE ****ing times when he could have fought an optional fight against a top 5 contender. He didn't. He has nobody to blame but himself and his Mickey Mouse team.
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Joshua just fought Wlad in front of 90,000 people and made 25 million unifying 2 belts in an exciting fight while Wilder just fought Washington in front of a half empty papered arena in Alabama for 1.2 million dollars. Do you see the difference there? The guy has been a pro for almost 10 years and has ONE fight against a top 10 opponent. One.
     
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    Hello.