This is why I think Pac can't beat Mayweather (video)

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Round1gymDC, Oct 7, 2010.


  1. johnnydrama

    johnnydrama Guest

    Styles make fight! PAC's has a very unorthodox style that is very hard to time or anticipate. His footwork is on anther level along with his speed. PAC takes control of the PACE of all his fights and sets the standard that very few have been able to keep up with.

    Floyd is a very technical and calcualted fighter. He makes mid fight adjustments to create offensive opening where his reflexes and speed and capitolize on counter opportunities that his defensive savvy sometimes creates. Floyd's ring generalship allow him to dictate the distance of his fights and that allows him to control the PACE of MOST of his fight.

    This fight between the two is gonna be a MAJOR conflict in styles. One is gonna be looking to set the PACE...the other looking to control distance.

    PAC's and Floyd will have their comfort zones and areas where they control certain stages of the fight so long as no one gets caught cold, early.

    For PAC to win he'll have to close distance and keep the pressure on Floyd where Floyd's DEFENSE is gonna be working on all cylinders. Manny can't stay on the inside too long which he never does...he'll have to work angles and use lateral movement while continueing his offense in order to overwhelm Floyd who will have a hard time finding PAC's rythm.

    Floyd will have to do his best to keep that Jab working to keep PAC at BAY..and switch things up a bit with the straight right or jab to the body. If he's successful he'll be able to control the distance and keep PAC honest enough where his relentless pressure diminishes over the course of the fight.

    What I see happening is this fight will be very competitive and BACK and FORTH early... PAC having his spots....Floyd having his and then I feel the inability to anticipate PAC's rythm or next move will cause Floyd to become TOO defensive and unwilling to put himself out there risking damage which will allow PAC to take control of the PACE of the fight.

    I see PAC winning a close competitive UD. I do think both men have the capablity to win....and Stop the other...but I see this going the distance in PAC's favor.
     
  2. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    some really naive posts from some people here just because one fighter does something doesnt mean another can automatically do those things better even if he is a superior fighter. Marquez although inferior in most departments to floyd is a better rhythmic combination puncher. Is floyd capable of winning throwing one punch at a time i dont know, I think he'll have to come out of his shell and throw more combos than in his previous few fights. I still like him to win but it will be interesting. I just don't feel manny will be able to overcome fighting "behind" floyd. Floyd will take control with timing and counterpunching and hit manny with stinging punches he wont expect and force him into a thinking game. Once floyd has you fighting behind him its over.
     
  3. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    like you said..the fact that Floyd adjusts extremely well and he keeps excellent distance will be why he will beat Pac....and Pac isnt that hard to time.....but most of his opponents simply get overwhelmed with his offense because they cant keep up....Floyd will have no problem matching foot speed and movement keeping distnce in his favor....
     
  4. johnnydrama

    johnnydrama Guest

    I'm not saying FLOYD CAN'T BEAT PAC. I know he can. but I also know PAC can beat Floyd and it's clear Floyd is aware of that as well. Like I said...BOTH are gonna have a lot of problems trying to impose their tactical strategy over the other. But I think Floyd controling distance which he is normally very good at has been based on fighters who don't have the qualities and relentless pressure that PAC brings with him to the ring. PAC is hard to time...especially nowadays. Even before....JMM was landing at a career LOW connect percentage before his fight with Floyd of course, when he faced PAC in the rematch. In the low 30% range. And that was JMM at his IDEAL weight where he wasn't slowed by extra weight and he didn't lose his power by the move northward.

    Cotto, Josh, Rick and DLH all had a VERY hard time finding PAC unless PAC did his trade mark throwing his hands up in the air, leaving his body exposed wiht the high guard and became stationary...GIVING his opponents the chance to land on him.

    If you don't think Floyd will have ANY problems with Manny and his dynamic offensive ability you are sorely mistaken....Just as mistaken as those who think PAC is gonna steam roll Floyd.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    That's becasue they don't know **** about boxing and lack the proper knowledge to give a detailed analysis, this has been proven time and time again.:deal All they say is stuff like PBF won't fight Pac and he's a ***** and on vacation or Pac will KO PBF never anything of substance.:-(
     
  6. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    LMAO when did your stupid ignorant opinion became facts? That's what's ******ed about *****s. Their opinions automatically becomes facts.
     
  7. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Did you notice that was years ago? LMAO Maybe we need to compare Floyd from his 130 days to his current state.
     
  8. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    devildoc is a good troll though
     
  9. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    And another dick rider who's personal opinion becomes facts. You know boxing because you're a mayweather fan right? Your detailed analysis is based from 5 years ago. Are you saying that Pac is still the same from 5 years ago?
     
  10. johnnydrama

    johnnydrama Guest


    To be fair.....BOTH sides have knowledgeable and those who lack knowledge about this sport. *******S and *****S are extremely passionate and there are a lot that NEVER provide analysis with any real depth or substance that would support their views or opinions. But again....some *****s and some *******S know boxing and know their ****...but are just coming from different sides of the specturm where conflicting opinions become heated debates where EVERYONE chimes in and we get a bunch of garbage.
     
  11. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Cmon now man? Do you really believe this **** you posted?:think

    FLOYD WILL CONTROL THE TEMPO OF THE FIGHT...His footwork is much better than Pac's and he is stronger in the clinch...SHANE IS A BEAST AT 47 AND FLOYD WAS MUSCLING HIM UP IN THE CLINCH :deal to resort back to a source...

    Also Pac's jab is very short thus it will be hard for him to control the ring generalship...PAC D IS NOT GREAT...STRAIGHT RIGHT HANDS OVER THE TOP OF THAT SHORT JAB WILL HURT

    Also Floyd is the better counter puncher and has better timing from a defensive position...Manny might be handcuffed...PAC WILL BE DANGEROUS EARLY..AS THE FIGHT ROLLS HE'LL BE LESS AND LESS EFFECTIVE...

    :deal:good Good post though..Just dont see Manny having the size to be able to control the fight in the way your saying...
     
  12. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Yeah and you are one confused mother****er. You can't man up and say Floyd doesn't want anything to do with pac.

    You say you know boxing but you insist in negotiations, purse splits and irrelevant drug testing. You make it seem like you rather see pacquiao jump through those hurdles to prove something baseless brought in by a delusional father and a spineless ****** for a son.

    You are a good example of a ***** who thinks he knows everything about boxing. Quit acting like you know boxing because you are just a typical fan.

    Again, *******s **** on *****s all day. Hell. Farmboxer shits and pisses on you dumbasses all day.
     
  13. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Co-Sign:hat
     
  14. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    ey say what ya want playboi...BUT WE DONT SAY **** LIKE "PAC WILL COUNTER WITH HIS STRAIGHT RIGHT HAND LEAD ALL DAY":!:

    Cmon now u gotta admit...MAYBE NOT U...but most pac fans are pretty new to boxing and haven't really started following the sport till recently..

    Since he fought Oscar at least:thumbsup
    :rofl:rofl
     
  15. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Is this another theoretical fantasy fight for Floyd? LMAO I guess because ***** boy doesn't even want to fight Pacquiao.

    Pacquiao detractors often say Pac will lose to so and so but Pac keeps winning and proving those so called boxing experts to be nothing but dumbasses.

    Floyd fights imaginary fights and win, Pac fights fighters who say will beat him. Which one shows greatnes? Somebody who pretends vs somebody who actually ****ing fights?