This is why MMA SUCKS!!

I like MMA just because there are more marketed fights and the UFC does offer a deeper card. The style matchups are always interesting. I also did Judo for a long time long before jujitsu became Brazilian Still dont make sense

I like Boxing when theres a big fight between two titans..not crap like Floyd vs. Hatton or DLH...Im talking about both top 5 in the world at where the outcome is uncertain. Nothing like it..Most I ever got excited was the Hearns/Hagler fight..#1 and #2. No such thing in MMA

But I love Hockey the most

 

How many MMA fighters have you seen in street fights? There's a difference between a fist fight(boxing match) and a full on street fight. A full on street fight is closer to an MMA fight.

 

How many Brazilian jiu jitsu blackbelts have you seen in a fight? :roll:
You have seen two drunk hillbilles outside a bar slogging it out. Not a ground technician who knows how to easily break an arm, a leg, choke you out within seconds.

 

In a Street fight I only seen one guy submitted before, but it was by a head lock. Most street fights start with punches, but I have seen a few started by a takedown or slam, whatever you want to call it. MMA like boxing will help you in a street fight, but to say Mir wouldve beat Tank by some kind of leg submission is crazy IMO.

 

How? He would have broken Tanks leg and Tank would be ****ed. Why would a leglock instantly become ineffective as soon as its moved outside an octagon?
It would just be as effective in a streetfight as it was in an MMA fight.

 

Why is it any different than in a cage? If it's a one on one street fight, it's virtually the same thing. If it's two drunk rednecks or two school kids slugging it out, you're not likely to see a submission or a tactical ground battle, but I've personally seen technical street fights closely resembling MMA fights, from MMA fighters no less.

 

A street fight has nothing to do with MMA or Boxing...which are both "SPORTS COMPETITION" in a controlled environment. Fighters train for months to "condition" themselves for the event. This is not Martial ART, a street fight is.

If you pick the wrong street fight..I dont ****in care if your Brock Lesnar or Fedor..a 15 year old could slice/dice your ass.. In a streetfight your chance is 50/50 at BEST...

 

We're talking a fight between two men, not some ***** who's too scared to fight one on one and has to resort to using a weapon.

 

I seen both, guys that are skilled boxers and wrestlers get into some good fights, also like you said a couple novices outside a bar. A street fight is alot different than a MMA or boxing match, more variables and no refs to break up the action when things get boring or someone headbutts you or kicks you on the ground. I do see what your saying, but fists and takedowns are the usual in a fight, and usually end with one or the other.

 

It would be 50/50 if the 15 year old had a weapon. If not, an MMA fighter(or boxer) will always beat an untrained opponent.

 

I will give you an example why it's different than cage, I was getting the best of this kid back in highschool and just when I went to take a step back and load up on a punch, I tripped over a curb and got knocked out cold, that wouldve of happend if it was cage or a flat mat type setting. In a street fight anything goes, you can kick on the ground and throw elbows, bite, headbutt, etc., in a MMA or Boxing match you would get disqualified for doing that.

 

What ****in streets have you been watching fights..I love to see honor and dignity in streetfighting..

you sure its not one of contrived youtube fights?

In a bar, where fight breaks between TWO men...you will see bottles flying, chairs, ****in any weapon goes...sometimes shots...

This is fighting for real bro..whatever advantage.. you can get..if youre looking for honor in the street..you'll freaking die seriously..thats why the best thing to do is avoid such ****

 

and the truth is spoken :good
I've never seen an untrained fighter beat a trained fighter (boxer, mma, ANY sort of trained fighter). I have seen a 130lb lightweight boxer knock out a 280lb+ bouncer in a matter of seconds, and no not with a cheap shot. When you have trained vs untrained it is quite easy to predict the outcome

 

Remember when Rickson said he was more afraid of the Ghetto kids than a Big BAD fighter in MMA. Thats because in the real world..there is no SURE thing..no assumptions...there is no way of knowing people will stab you with a pen for Gods sake...This is Martial Art

 

Seems to be a considerrable lack of understading submissions on the part of many readers here - not true on the MMA board however. So beating someone to a pulp is respectable - but having them tap out to a submission is not respectable? You are aware if there was no referee that Brock Lesnar's leg would have been broken at the knee and he would have been left crying and rolling on the ground with a leg bent 45 degrees in the wrong direction?