This is why VITALI is NOT even a top 20 ATG

little note...i dont hate the klits. I respect them for being in awesome shape, all business, they will fight anyone, anytime...and doing what they can in one of the worst heavyweight eras EVER :good

But i do hate most of their fans who rank them with god like status and have never seen boxing before them

If youre gonna call him top 10 all time great
(some idiots call him top 5 ) atsch
you have to look at more than just a nice padded 40-2 record with 38 KOs
his 2 losses? TKO losses....Vitalis best win? who knows. His bigggest fight he lost and against a guy who was out of shape and out the door.
he has had height, weight, reach advantage over everyone. so how you win is taken into acct when it comes to ATG status.

Call me a BOXREC warrior all you want because most fans hate FACTS ....WTF ever...youre an idiot if you dont reference the stats and call him a top 10 guy all time....
EXAMPLE look at tyrone brunson, was 19-0 19 first round kos. WOW, amazaing
but if you look at his opponents you would know 12 of those 19 had 2 wins or less. in his 16th pro fight was 16-0 with 16 kos and fighting a guy making his pro debut atsch Perspective :deal


first 10
#1 1996 Tony Bradham record 6-3 6 ft 1 227
#2 1996 Frantisek Sumina record 2-17 6 ft 4 241
#3 1996 Brian Sargent record 9-8 6 ft 2 231
#4 1997 Mike Acklie record 11-13 5 ft 11 229
#5 1997 Troy Roberts record 8-3 6 ft 2 234
#6 1997 Calvin Jones record 20-16 6 ft 6 282
#7 1997 Derrick Roddy record 17-11 6 ft 6 223
#8 1997 Cleveland Woods record 14-11 6 ft 2 233
#9 1997 Jimmy Haynes record 10-5-1 6 ft 2 ?
#10 1997 Will Hinton record 16-11 6 ft 1 ?

pretty shitty caliber of guys considering Vitali was a former heavyweight kickboxing champion

opponents wins 113
opponents losses 95

fights 11-20 will be posted in a few...and oh...its gets better :hi:

 

fights 11-20

#11 Gilberto Williamson record 4-3-3 6 ft 3

#12 Herman Delgado record 12-8-1 6 ft 0
Delgado lost 8 of 12 fights going in. 4 of the wins were against suspect opponents with ZERO proffessional fights before and never a fight after)

#13 Anthony Willis record 16-6 6 ft 1
Willis had lost 5 of 8 bouts going in and lost 6 of his next 9 fights

#14 Marcus Rhode record 20-7 6 ft 2
rhode loses 34 of his next 48 fights

#15 Alben Belinski record 5-0 6 ft 1
guy never had another fight ever

#16 Louis Monaco record 7-11 5 ft 11
momnaco in 13 fight losing streak

#17 Levi Billups record 21-16 6 ft 0
Billups had lost 11 of 14 fights going in

#18 Julius Francis record 18-6 6 ft 2
francis loses 18 of his next 22 fights

#19 Dicky Ryan record 46-3 6 ft 2
out of ryans 46 wins, 16 opponents had a winning record
so there were 7-6 , 10-8 guys that counted as a winning record, but sucked beyond belief)

#20 Jose Ribalta record 39-14
Ribalta had lost 10 out of his last 18 when he fought vitali....
5 of the guys ribalta actually beat had records of 4 wins 50 losses, 2 wins 19 losses, 11-31, 9-31, 3 wins and 41 losses
so even in his 20th fight, he was fight guys washed up beyond belief....


even with Dickie Ryans JOKE of a record

opponents wins 188 (4 guys acct for 124 wins)
opponents losses 73

 

for christ sakes dummies im breaking it up into 4 parts..no one would read it if it was all in 1 lump post

 

it was an example of you can NOT just look at a guys record like most vitali fans do and say
40-2 (38 by KO)
records better than tyson, holyfield, frazier, ali,
its not black and white
people out there really think because he has the highest "knock out rate" at
94% he must hit way harder than liston, foreman, tyson ect ect
without looking at the opponents

Brunson was an example that records are deceiving...yeah vitali is a milliuon miles ahead of him in talent, only thing compared was the nice records

 

dont matter...they are LOSSES....he could not answer the bell, and some would say as much as he was beating byrd, he could have stayed away for 3 more rounds...you know, like ALL TIME GREATS do, fight through adversity...ali-broken jaw for 11 rounds? legit injury or not, he quit where others didnt...danny williams arm was falling off him and he didnt quit....just saying :think