This kid is a beast. 13 years old and this good! Anyone on here know about him?

:huh

This makes no sense. You don't have to abandon your COACH and PROGRAM for the money. You can just fight in the US.

Why get US coaches?

 

I heard this kid knocked out Pipino Cuevas in sparring

 

it is true, unless he makes it to the top of the rankings you don't know how good he is. Taking a big punch is something some guys just cannot do no matter how tough they talk.

 

Enjoyed the clips, especially the 2nd one. :good

It's a shame they're scewing with the kid's mind at such a young age by giving him such an obnoxious nickname like "Cashflow". Talk about instilling the "wrong" virtues in young kids. :-(

 

He's ranked "best in America".... so ****ing what?? Doesn't the WBA rank Amir Khan ahead of Lucas Matthysse? Does that mean I must automatically consider Khan superior to Lucas?? :-(

Rankings are subjective, are they not??

 

When were guys like Hopkins and Mayweather amateurs? I'm not saying the US have always been poor but they have been in recent years, the drought is coming up.

 

Most top Eastern Euro amateurs still don't turn pro. I hear that about American fighters all the time but it's absolute bull****. They don't throw combinations or body shots so I don't see how they're suited to the pros. The only US fighter in recent years to do well in the pros is Andre Ward, and surprise surprise he was an olympic gold medallist. Broner and Russell jr. are both wait and see but I'm guessing they'll be the same as their amateur career, do well until they reach the top and get beaten by someone with better fundamentals and boxing IQ. Olympic boxing has become more like the pros recently and from later this year the headgear is gone and the 10 point must system will be used so it will be basically indistinguishable from pro boxing.
Look at the most dominant amateur from recent years, Lomachenko. Bodypunching, skills and combinations with a pro style. Look at guys like Khytrov, Beterbiev who have been very successful and knocking guys out in the ams. Where are the American equivalents if they're so 'pro'? Boxing is boxing and the US has been on a steady decline, the amateur system in the US is garbage because they don't understand the connection between amateur and pro boxing, they see it as a stepping stone instead of a foundation. A top amateur becomes a top pro. There are exceptions (Toney etc.) but more often than not a pro career resembles the success of their amateur career.

 

They don't abandon their program, their US trainer is basically just some support. Their amateur coach has other fighters to train in their country where he probably gets paid well by the government and probably a family and friends he doesn't want to leave. Why would he uproot himself for one of his fighters? Lomachenko will be bringing his father over to train him in the US next year so see what happens there.

 

You haven't heard of the gold medallists but you will do soon. You say they're nobodies because they're not American, the US can't win anything. Amateur boxing hasn't resembled fencing since 2004 so I don't know what you're talking about. Even those boxers from the 'fencing' years such as Golovkin, Dirrell etc. managed to do well in the pros with the exact same style they used as amateurs.
Here are two top amateurs from the last worlds. Where are the American equivalents? This doesn't look like fencing to me :huh

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