No that's not it. Ray lost because He was clueless during the takedown. Only difference between Him and Kimbo is that the other guy had some basics in wrestling. Prime Mercer , old Mercer...doesn't change anything.. Prime Tyson , Prime Lennox , Prime Klitschko , Foreman , Bowe or whatever... Doesn't change anything as long as fighter A is convinced that he's automatically gonna magically KO all his opponents with a single punch. In real life , it doesn't work that way. Doesn't matter if you're the deadliest striker on the planet. but tons of people have a very hard time understanding that. It's a very simple logic though.
Zakman your whiney crying is more of an embarrassment to boxing then the fight(which I don't think is embarrassing to boxing at all) Its not like Kimbo kidnapped Ray and forced him to fight under mma rules. Ray is a grown man and made the desicion to fight mma. Are you totally ******ed or something? BOXING IS NOT MIXED MARTIAL ARTS, I don't know how to break it down for you any easier.
HaHaHaHa! I told you Zakman - and you and The Model look like whiny little fan boys saying "its not fair". Face it - your once world ranked boxer got owned fast by a nobody and proved how limited your view is and how you cannot rely on boxing alone. As for the squared circle challenge - allow elbows, knees, stand up grappling, throws and punches (you know all the techniques that are in unlicenced boxing but have been removed from the sport you know because they are too dangerous) and your unbeatable boxer would face the same outcome. Vive la choke!!!!
Here is prime Lennox getting chucked around by Jeremy Williams [yt]qp2vWfb7Smk[/yt] If you don't know how to stop takedowns or throws punching power is almost nullified, ALMOST I said, so don't got crazy guys.
What a joke you are. Go find the next bandwagon to jump off and make excuses. The only part you got right was that Mercer did not lose because Kimbo is a better fighter......Mercer lost becuase he was an unprepared fighter. Imagine Couture versus Mercer......a really skilled and talented MMA fighter.:yikes
No, I am actually happy enough to see chumps like yourself try and weasel your way via any excuse that you have no idea what you are talking about.
What would you say if Mercer won? Better yet would you accept the excuse that Kimbo was paid to lose?
It was a farce but what is more farcial is you boxing fanboys crying about it. If it did not matter why post so much about it? And on an MMA forum no less! :rofl :rofl :rofl
Errr.... this thread started off on the BOXING forum, and there is still a link to it there. :roll: On to the topic, Kimbo did what I would expect him to do against a fat 46 year old. Am I supposed to be impressed? :huh
Yes , I do realise that He's a "bum" (who'd probably demolish you btw). But you are clearly delusional if you are persuaded that a prime Mercer would magically beat a guy who's got a better (even if it's a vague one) , knowledge in wrestling. THE SAME THING would happen. IT ISN'T BOXING. Kimbo would ONCE AGAIN , rush towards his opponent , and the ref wouldn't seperate them during the clinch. and the rest would be history...instant takedown , Mercer is on the ground & game over. The same thing would happen against EVERY ****ING BOXERS. It would be a huge ****ing reality check if Mayweather vs Sherk would actually happen. HUGE , and hopefully , it'll never happen because it would be unfair to see boxing's #1 P4P , getting easily taken on the ground and punched into a coma , or instantly armbared , or choked out. Kimbo learning a few tricks is one thing...but a veteran wrestler , even a one dimensional wrestler...against a boxer with no basics , not even a strict minimum in either wrestling or bjj...would ONLY have a miracle puncher's chance. In other words , to try to land a punch so brutal , that it would instantly ko his opponent out cold. and THAT my friend...is extremely RARE. Not even Tua could do it vs Ruiz. doesn't matter if they have 4 oz gloves especially when a guy is attacking your legs. Do you even train in real life? do you realise how absurd this is? and the lower you have to reach , the less power you have too.
Because the guy clearly can't stand the fact that some streetfighter with a few weeks of training in wrestling , was able to totally nullify a boxing legend's game. Which is frankly stupid because it's not like Mercer was fighting under boxing rules. but most boxing fans have a hard time swallowing that pill. To them , the scenario is supposed to go like this: - Boxer enters the cage - wrestler , judoka or bjj artist goes for a takedown - boxer lands a single punch.. - obviously catches the guy right on the chin - instantly KOed - game over after 10 or 20 seconds..
This is quite a rarity in MMA. When ever a fighter loses there are always calls of "fix" "fix"!! Since those claims are completley unsubstaniated and unprovable i would recommend the people claiming it to be a fix should....shut the **** up. Prime MMA fighter > Prime Boxer Boxers really have no idea how to grapple or fight on the ground an MMA fighter would take any boxer down and easily sumbit him,choke him out or simply ground and pound him into unconciousness. It would be over in under a minute. That goes for any boxer Dempsey,Marciano,Liston,Ali,Frazier,Foreman,Tyson,Lewis All those great boxers would be defeated easily against a trained MMA fighter....or even a trined wrestler or BJJ practioner.
You guys can't be serious. Mercer no matter what age was light years ahead of Kimbo as far as skill. If he was 13 years older that is 13 years of experience. He also had some wrestling experience. On paper he should have won this fight. Every non-mma fan who does not under stand mma and only understands a fight between two boxers thought Kimbo was going to get starched. Not one of you was mentioning Mercer's age being a factor. Now you all hate on Kimbo saying this was a farce and Mercer didn't train. Are you grown ups? I can't believe that grown men can't accept being wrong. Kimbo was the underdog. He should not have one. He has 1% of the handskill as Mercer and just started training MMA. This was a huge fight for him and a huge test. Now you guys want to act like Kimbo should have beaten a shot Mercer. Kimbo is an F level fighter if that. He can't beat any UFC fighter in his weight class. Mercer may not have been the best but he was at least a good boxer that no one thought a nobody was going to beat. Boxing is not fighting, it is a part of fighting.