This Kimbo Slice thing really pisses me off.

It's a shame that there is sort of no use for it anymore. A great pure BJJ expert wins over any other pure form of martial art.

 

Oh, my bad. Yeah, RJJ has a shot with 2 years of training, sure.

Trouble is, it's hard to be elusizve when the guy can hold you, and RJJs beard is a bit suspect. It might be a bit too easy to KO him. Muy Thai clinch plus knee = lights out RJJ.

 

well yeah, thats why I said give him some MT experience. I dont know anybody with the pure striking(other than knees in a clinch) who would even catch him with a clean shot on there feet. So I dont think his chin would come into play too bad.

 

I was just checking if you're just full of **** or not USMCG. And Yea, you convinced me. "Year of training grappling and boxer would dominate MMA"nut What a tool.

 

I said world class boxer with a year or 2 could dominate.

And yes they could.

Look at Mirko when he came over from k-1, oh yeah. STFU noob

 

You're vastly underestimating the time period involved in learning these aspects, you could create an MMA fighter that is a great style matchup for alot of guys who could win some big fights in a year or two, but it would take alot longer to create somebody who is truely dominate like Fedor, Hughes during his run, Silva during his run, guys who can hold a belt for years.

 

thats why I said could dominate, and besides Fedor, I mean Hughes has 2 losses to a guy who cant even make it in the UFC, Silva won with virtually No ground game. So I do think its possible.

But thats why I said could dominate, Didnt say Fedorable, lol

 

Mirko is a great example of why they would not dominate, they would do very well, but there would always be those, who due to years and years of grappling, will have to toolset to beat him. Also Mirko is the absolute best crossover from K1, look at Hunt, Leko, Manhoef, Lebanner, and others for a broader spectrum and truer look at what to expect.

 

once again thats why I said they would need a decent amount of time to make the transition. Hunt has been pretty damn solid too.

Read the post I made right above yours though. Nobody in unbeatable, everybody has someone who can beat them in MMA.

 

I agree with that. But I wan't talking about your points I was saying in general, who cares which is closer to a real fight?

Well, they are idiots. Boxing is a sport, NOT a fight. You might learn a couple of things that MIGHT help in a street fight, but as you say thy are entirely different beasts.

You might as well do track & field - that will also give you some things that MIGHT POSSIBLY help you in a fight (stamina, fitness..)

Again though, so what if one is closer to a fight? Neither are really a fight.

 

I agree with the last point.

As far as whether it matters which one is closer to a fight in all other cases no but in this thread, to me, it does because of the first thing you quoted me saying in that Kimbo is a street fighter and that is why he won the fight because an MMA even is closer to a street fight making the pendulum swing in Kimbo's direction, if it were a boxing match it would have swung into Mercer's direction. I am inarticulate so I have hard time getting my point across.

I think that you are refering to the chest beating that MMA and boxing fans are guilty of when they talk about which one is more like a street fight as if it makes one tougher or harder than the other. That is not the point I am trying to make.

 

jesus lets put this to bed guys...neither is beter/best..they are totally different sports.....sports i said......my mate, an extremely talented mma competitor and coach always says that about mma....its a sport, if you wanna fight the guy, go hit him with a chair in the changing room.......

 

or a nice shot to the groin followed by a bite to the nose

 

Yep, that is exactly waht I'm getting at.

A victory either way says nothing about one sport vs another. If Mercer had won, that wouldn't have meant boxing is "superior" to MMA.

This was a fight between two rather insignificant figures. Kimbo won, and all that proves is that Kimbo is better at MMA than Mercer. There was no deeper significance than that to this fight. It says nothing in general about either sport over the other.

On the flipside, if Wlad Klitschko fought Fedor in a BOXING match, does anyone seriously think that Fedor would win?

And if that fight happened and Wlad won by KO, that wouldn't mean that boxing is superior to MMA, just that Wlad was better than Fedor at boxing.