This PRIDE vs. UFC stuff is silly

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by cross_trainer, Jan 24, 2012.


  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Yes, the UFC apparently employs its people to stealth-advertise on internet forums, which is annoying. Its boss is equally annoying.

    Yes, PRIDE allowed steroids, fixed fights, and had yakuza connections.

    Yes, Brock Lesnar was not the best fighter in the world at the time he won the belt.


    Why on Earth do you guys hate your respective "enemy" organizations so much, though? Honestly?
     
  2. Stoo

    Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    At one point in time I was watching WEC, DREAM, UFC and Strikeforce events and was enjoying every damn one of them

    This brand loyalty stuff is ******ed, just enjoy the fights.
     
  3. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    You're asking the wrong man.

    I don't hate, but appreciate.. I don't think anyone here hates on Pride FC, but we all can't seem to get enough of UFC matchmaking, Fertitas and President.

    You've been here long enough to know who hates on Dana, Fertitas, and The UFC.
     
  4. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    I don't hate PRIDE. I respect it for what it was, and acknowledge that it had many legendary fights, terrific cards and great champions.

    But it belongs in the dark ages of MMA.

    And I have NO respect for mafia involvement, fixed fights, encouragement of steroid abuse, open racism, open corruption in judging and officiating, rule changes being made DURING a fight, champions in non-title bouts, disregard for fighter safety and injury treatment, etc etc etc. ALL of that **** is poison for mixed martial arts.

    I want MMA to succeed as a sport. Pride wasn't a sporting competition, it occupied the middle ground between legitimate sport and scripted entertainment.

    :hat
     
  5. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    Yeah it's like saying you only watch top rank shows in boxing. Pride, WEC, UFC, Strikeforce, One FC, BAMMA, that Australian thing that ran for two shows as long as they have good fights I'm watching
     
  6. Ne5ville14

    Ne5ville14 Rationalist by default... Full Member

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    :deal
     
  7. Ne5ville14

    Ne5ville14 Rationalist by default... Full Member

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    Only in your mind....:dead
     
  8. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    In legitimate combat sports, the refs don't wear earpieces.

    And even if the hometown favourite is getting owned, they don't change the rules of the contest mid-fight. :good

    :hat
     
  9. Ne5ville14

    Ne5ville14 Rationalist by default... Full Member

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    I'm not saying Pride was perfect, but judging the whole organisation with a few bad apple is ****in dumb.

    And saying it's was not a legitimate sport does not not make it a legitimate sport !:good

    You can take your opinion roll it into a ball and shove it down your uretra, it doesn't change what history will remember of Pride, great show, great org, great fighter !:good
     
  10. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    I was reading a Nick Diaz interview the other day and one thing that he said made me think. He was talking about how Pride was geared more towards combat rather than pro (not professional)-wrestling like the UFC. Wrestling would be punished for inactivity with yellow cards and such, so it was more about the fight than grinding out a win.

    It was a good point.
     
  11. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Those bad apples were officiating the fights.. Think about what you are saying.
     
  12. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Look, PRIDE wasn't a sports organization. It held events.

    And that's fine, it put on some legendary shows.

    But it was sports entertainment. And it was nothing close to legitimate.

    Now, a lot of people are into the ceremony and the pageantry and all that bull****. That's fine. Horses for courses.

    But personally, I like to watch combat sports. I have no patience for fixed fights or referees getting in-ring instructions from backstage or mafia ownership or any of the shady bull**** that was all through PRIDE.

    :hat
     
  13. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    /thread
     
  14. PrinceVega

    PrinceVega 帝拳ボクシングジム Full Member

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    pride was / is better
    / thread.
     
  15. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Contrary to what many of the UFC joy boys believe on here i'm not a UFC hater. If i was i wouldn't attend the fights, the expo's, buy the merchandise or watch the fights.
    What i am willing to do is call out fanboys who are willing to accept the UFC's gimmicks at face value and then defend it unwaveringly when some of these actions are detrimental to MMA as a whole. Those that are willing to **** on the history of this sport of which PRIDE was a massive influence i will call out.

    Absolutely i'm a fan of PRIDE. But equally i'm a fan of this sport and i want to see it develop to its fullest in the fairest manner which doesn't mean the destruction of other organisations that have all provided fighters with a living.

    Far as im concerned its easy to tell between the two. But evidently on here that doesn't seem to be the case. Fans either see you as in one camp or the other. Either way these brand wars are just childish. But it does after all reflect quite starkly on the 'type' of fans MMA attracts along with the younger demographic.

    That said PRIDE FO LIFE!!! :yep