This "US PPV money".....

Less marketable than Chris Byrd?

 

Connie McG

 

Joshua is the A side.

He's supposed to bring in the money as long as he's matched with a good tango partner.

That's what the whole "A side/B side" thing means.

 

Don't be stupid, last year Mayweather vs McGregor did 450 million and Canelo vs Golovkin did 150 million.

 

The common denominator here is that those big upticks occurred when De La Hoya fought Chavez and when Mayweather fought De La Hoya, ie when they finally fought a fellow star who could draw with their own fanbase.

 

Berbick was pretty aweful

But yeah, he's up there

 

Wilder can draw a few fans in Alabama where the men are men and the sheep are nervous! Wilder is not PPV worthy, in fact, I am tired of PPV altogether!

 

True though both Chavez and Oscar were proven big PPV draws in the US when Oscar and Mayweather fought them unlike Joshua. Joshua maybe a big draw but not in the market we are talking about.

 

I made a massive post about this on a Facebook group.

It boiled down to this. For the fight to generate 100 million dollars in total then it needs to sell 600k. For it to generate 100 million as a sum that can split between the fighters it needs 1.5 million ppv buys. At 2pm on a Saturday?

 

Neither will happen.

Be lucky to do 300k buys

 

That was exactly what I thought.

If it does any less on both ppvs then that flat fee looks even better. I used the Klitschko fight for UK PPV buys since that was a record so that's a good example of a ceiling it will reach.

 

Some Quote from a youtube-comment:

- "Putting on a fight is like getting a mortgage - you need a deposit! No-one will trust you with a huge amount of money unless you can prove your status. Never mind a % of profit, who is going to forward-fund the fight?? The speeches from Wilders reps suggest they want the planning and funding done by AJs team ("we are waiting for an offer","when will the offer come", "no-one has made us an offer"). They seem to want a decent chunk of profit without taking the risk. AJ's £60m request shows up the absurdity of this stance: if you say the fight is worth £100m, you put it on and I'll take a salary. Like or loathe Matchroom they turned over £100m last year and have the infrastructure to put on the fight. If Wilder were to sign exclusively with a major US operator he would have a better chance of a major purse. No doubt to a degree Matchroom don't want to risk their cash-cow on Wilder who has a very good chance of winning - Joshua on points (jab and grab!) for me. There is a chance this fight could catch fire like Mayweather v MMA but only if the sides work together in a realistic way and respect that the person who puts up the money should get the greatest reward."

 

Exactly. I was also going to mention WWE and UFC outsells a lot of these boxers. Getting tired of these anti American threads.

 

Both Wilder and Joshua has the charisma to garner massive crowds and the fact that they are heavyweights adds to that. It's all about the hype and spending the money to build the hype. Not so much with AJ because his fanbase is huge in the UK but both sides need to sit down and determine how to build this fight into the event that it shows the potential for. Wilder's team can't ride to the bank on AJ's back and AJ's team shouldn't sit on their duffs and act like their part is already done. Wilder's team needs to put up the majority of the cash to build the hype in the US but AJ's team need to invest also because it benefits both teams. The fight will gross more in the US and there's no doubt about it. The sides just need to come together and break this bank right.

 

Wilder got such a big croud against Ortiz didn't he! Attracting a full sold-out croud! Oh wait, let's look at the numbers. Wait, what? Thurman vs Garcia had higher attendance? Can't be! Surely not! Yeah, yes that happened. Wilder vs Ortiz, a heavyweight world title fight, got less attendance than 2 welterweights...

He doesn't garner massive crouds. AJ could fight 0-0 amateur that no-one has heard of, fight him on a wednesday in the morning and still outdo wilder's attendance numbers. Wilder isn't a draw.