This Version of Floyd beats Pacquiao & Martinez

ok, just had to clarify that.

Martinez would probably be about the same weight, but keep in mind he fought most his career at 154 and has been a 160 for a bit now, so he naturally is a bigger man and stronger than Ortiz. He beat up Pavlik, a big middleweight that hits like a mule. i don't think Floyd could back Martinez up at all. Ortiz was complete confussed and played right into Floyd's hands. Remeber styles make fights, Martinez is a veteran and very crafty, he wouldn't play into Floyd's hands, he also has a great jab and is just as slick as Floyd, he has everything to beat Floyd IMO...I would bet the house on Martinez...

Ortiz had a terrible game plan and is a pup, he doesn't have much ring IQ, Serigo does...

 

we'll never know unless he stop being to fight Pac or Martinez.....all he has to do is man up

i agree with formidable Ortiz is not Pac or Sergio.....the poor kid is a dumbf@ck

 

Ortiz is Americas answer to Mathew Hatton, absolute trash.

Safe to say even Ricky Hatton would have Ko'ed him, and Ricky was also garbage.

 

Ricky wasn't garbage, he was a good fighter, and yes he'd beat Ortiz...

 

For his hype, he was garbage, very one dimensional and well marketed.

Garbage may be harsh as he was a decent boxer, but considering people thought he could beat Mayweather and Pac, and had him top 10 p4p, he was garbage.

 

Be less of a clown and people will take you seriously.

 

I know this is a little beyond you, so google it... ''ad hominem'' hopefully your vacuous mind will become stimulated and you will read more than just a forum

I love how *****s are acting like Ortiz was world classnut

 

:huh You should get your eyes checked if you think Ortiz was "tagging" Mayweather.

 

So you deny that B level Ortiz was making contact? tagging doesn't mean beating him, it means he was catching him sporadically which was enough to upset Bitchweather.

I have not once said that Ortiz would beat him before the ***** move, just that it was more competitive than Bitchweather expected, I think Bitchweather hoped for another JMM.

 

PBF is the man cleary the best boxer in the sport.:deal He schools Pac and gets by Martinez.

 

Says the guy that bet me Dawson would beat Pascal:rofl:rofl

 

Funny thread.. I lol'd..

 

Is this 'Crack Sunday'.

Comparing Ortiz to the two best fighters in the worlds needs addressing.

 

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Ortiz wasn't throwing nearly enough punches; thus, it's impossible to gauge how Floyd would do against 2 guys that would inevitably be throwing much more punches using this fight as your central evidence.