This victory gives nothing to Lomachenko

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by NaiKoN, Dec 9, 2017.


  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh before I sleep I'll touch on this. I highly disagree about Walters being better than anyone on TC's resume. Walters was a weight bully. He has one good win with a major asterisk. Nonito who basically was on record in 2013 saying he lost passion for boxing. He also lucked out with a cut or something against an African fighter post Rigo and then was losing on the cards to Darchinyan. Walters then moves up to 130 and looks absolutely mediocre against Sosa.

    Also comparing crude Sosa to Diaz is a bad comparison too. Diaz is a gold medalist and he absolutely sonned Sammy Vasquez. Sosa packed more of a punch but skillwise I don't think it's even comparable.

    As for people asking for the fight. It's irrelevant to the quality of the win.

    But yeah. That's my opinion on it. I'll respond tomorrow if you want to debate more.
     
  2. dellboi94

    dellboi94 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough, I think TC can do well at WW, he is very skilled and versatile. He has the talent to get big wins at welterweight and I don't think he will be too small at welter, he has always rehydrated to a fair size. He won't be a big welter, but big enough imo.
     
  3. puncherschance

    puncherschance Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that and salido is an old washed up glorified barroom brawler, that is harsh but at this stage in his career that's pretty much all he is. i have no doubt loma would win in the rematch. i give vasyl credit he is a very good fighter with a unique style and perplexing footwork, i don't think there is anyone in his weight class that can beat him.
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    really? well this fight surely gave something new to Rigo.
     
  5. lmartin

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  6. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Like I said, you had no point. ****en spastic
     
  7. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Okay, so you obviously cannot explain why Floyd reached a critical severely dehydrated state after the weigh in which could have easily been remedied for drinking water. Gotcha.
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You mean kinda like you can't explain why Pac turned down random blood testing to face PBF back in 2010 only to agree to that same type of testing to fight Rios years later? Agree to fight a punching bag in Rios but not to against the truth in PBF and a career high payday. Gotcha!
     
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  9. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Pac gave Floyd everything that he requested --- top billing, first on the scale, first into the ring, name announced second, etc.. Then Pac agreed to testing, but the Mayweathers went on a public smear campaign and Pac put his foot down. He said he'd do any testing with a 24 day window at the END OF TRAINING CAMP, when no one juices because the benefits aren't there. You'll remember that Floyd was sued by Pac and lost and immediately settled the suit once Pac's lawyers sought to get Floyd's drug test results/contract.

    But you obviously cannot explain why Floyd reached a critical severely dehydrated state after the weigh in which could have easily been remedied for drinking water. Gotcha.
     
  10. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maintained his standing based on what?
     
  11. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Why are you asking me to tell you why everyone rated him for the last four years?
     
  12. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let's keep this in perspective. After only 11 fights Loma has done some very remarkable things and he's challenging himself against the best, in or around his weight class. He's already a two division world champ and has dominated every single fight except for Salido. The Rig fight was a great performance against a p4p ranked boxer. Was he smaller? Absolutely, but we can't take away the fact that he completely schooled an elite level pugilist and didn't bully him with the weight differential. It was purely a skills match up where his style was a puzzle that Rig couldn't solve which ended up making the 2 time Olympic gold medalist and 122 lb world champion to quit on his stool. Loma is at a point where the unfair criticism becomes part of the territory.....A right of passage if you will. The more he wins and dominates against better opponents, the more detractors and hate he will garner. Like Floyd and Manny, they just continued to win and dominate during their prime years which I fully expect Loma to do
     
  13. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The way he dominated and made a consensus great fighter quit was truly remarkable. But, no, it was a no-win situation for Loma from the time he signed on for the fight. All he could do is what he did, absolutely dominate.
     
  14. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what did he move up? eight weight divisions? every athlete is on something, manny is one of the most obvious cases.
     
  15. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Wow, you just quoted what Loma said before he even took the fight. You are a reverse reader of the future........ I.e. you can see into the recent past..... Impressive, most impressive, but you are not a Jedi yet.