This whole Cotto has a "WEAK CHIN" has gotten old!

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  1. Process

    Process New Member Full Member

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    I don't think he recovers well. The 2 times where he was badly hurt he was hurt for long periods. I think his opposition is just not good at finishing the fighter.

    I don't understand this weight draining excuse either. If that was the case ODLH would have wobbled his way from 130 thru 140, but he didn't and neither did Mosley nor Mayweather or many fighters who would weight drain themselves to make weight.

    I believe Cotto's chin is slightly below average.
     
  2. Process

    Process New Member Full Member

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    Let me put it this way. Vargas is known to having a weak chin. If Trinidad would have caught Cotto with the same hook he caught Vargas in the first round Cotto would be put to sleep.
     
  3. Davies

    Davies Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i agree spot on :good
     
  4. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The first time Cotto ever was hurt seriously in a fight came a day after he struggled to make the 140 pound limit, needing 3 attempts to make weight. Do you think that's a coincidence?

    If his chin was below average, he would have been out cold against Torres. Torres landed dozens of flush shots on Cotto after having him on ***** street, but couldn't put him away.

    Not true. Vargas heading into the Trinidad fight was known for having a rock solid chin. He only became chinny post-Tito.
     
  5. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    I don't think his chin is that bad.
     
  6. Process

    Process New Member Full Member

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    Yes, I do think it is a coincidence.

    Cotto was hurt because Corley landed a perfect punch to the temple.

    He did land several shots, but Cotto's will and setermination to stay in the fight got him through that storm. I am not arguing that Cotto lacks heart because he doesn't. His chin however is not average or above average. How many p4p fighters do you see wobbled like cotto? Not to many right? now if more than half of the fighters in the top ten P4P have been on ***** street in several occasions than you can say his chin is average, but that is not the case.

    :rofl :rofl :rofl No. Though his chin wasn't really discussed, you can see in the Winky fight that he was being bothered by Winky's power. How many fighters has winky KO in the last 10 years?
     
  7. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto has a good chin, you don't beat Zab Judah, Randall Bailey, Mosley, or Chop Chop with a weak chin.
     
  8. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So are you saying he got caught by a perfect punch in a vulnerable spot? If so, is that indicative of chin issues or not?



    How many fighters with below average chins go 32 fights without being KO'd or even knocked down (Torres threw him to the canvas), fighting the level of opposition he has been fighting?


    :rofl :rofl :rofl Sounds like you didn't see a whole lot of Vargas pre-Tito. Vargas was always known not only for his toughness but his ability to take a shot, as he proved against Campas and Quartey. Suggesting he was always chinny is pretty ridiculous. Vargas was bothered in the Winky fight no doubt, but Winky's power was the least of his troubles that night.
     
  9. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Good points made in this post.
     
  10. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    He has been visibliy hurt about 5 times in his career, most at 140. he is going up against a big strong welter and he will get hurt again. And probably again after that fight. but if he keeps winning what can you say.
     
  11. Process

    Process New Member Full Member

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    He got caught by a perfect punch that have caught other elites but haven't put them on ***** street.


    How many fighters who are elite have been spaghettied for over a minute by much inferior opposition?

    Torres shoving him to the canvas was more of a favor to the spaghettied Cotto. That was Torres' over excitement making that big mistake due to lack of big fight experience.

    Also Cotto's level of opposition is not spectacular by any means. He has fought many good prospects and B level has beens.


    The point is Cotto would probably not of gotten up from Trinidad's cast like punches or ODLH's missle left hooks. Why? Because even though Cotto has A+ skills, and A+ natural talent and A+ power, he still has a C to C- Chin. Nothing wrong with that, don't get all worked up about it. It's rare any fighter posses an A+ in every category.

    Examples of elites with weaknesses.

    ODLH- A+ just about everywhere, but in dedication C-. Too many distarctions in his life.

    Trinidad- B- skills, B+ chin, but his power and stamina made up for it.

    Mayweather- A+ talent, skills. B power, C balls.

    Judah- A+ power, A+ speed, F Focus.

    So you see, Cotto has C chin, but his A+ skills make up for it.

    Nothing wrong with not being perfect.
     
  12. js1

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    Sure Cotto's chin has held up at 147. However, how many natural welterwieghts has he fought? All but gomez have been smaller fighters moving up to 147. Even then he has been stunned at 147. Margarito will be his first true test against a good..hard hitting natural welterweight fighter. I'm not saying cotto has a glass jaw...I just don't think he has the best of chins.
     
  13. ayala

    ayala Boxing Addict Full Member

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    corley hurt mayweather too so does thats mean that margorito would ko mayweather too because he was hurt by chop chop
     
  14. JabCross727

    JabCross727 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Probably one strategy or the only strategy Cotto should consider is to mix up boxing and brawling to get an easy UD but if the opportunity presents itself, the KO will be extra credit.
     
  15. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: It is old.

    The guy has been hurt, wobbled and yet and was able to come back to finish off the opposition . . . and you call that weak chin?

    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl