This will be the first Polish Heavyweight Champ, Too slick, too Polish

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  1. PrinceNaseemHamed

    PrinceNaseemHamed Walk Like A Champion Full Member

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    Has he got a 3 punch low blow combo in his arsenal?
     
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  2. Beyonce Wilder

    Beyonce Wilder Active Member Full Member

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    The Nutcracker
     
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  3. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    The world is INTEGRATING.

    And I saw a BEAST that looked unto a Leopard......mouth of a the Lion, Claws of the Bear, but was given dominion by the Dragon.......
    You know...Revelation Chapter 13???
    Those spots are the sealing our alliances through interracial relations, Daniel Chapter 2, and its clear Europe is the Lion, Russia the Bear, and China the Dragon. The US, well, we've just got the most spots. LMAO
     
  4. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    Of course he is polish what else?
    Speaks no hausa no igbo, does not relate to the nigerian culture, speaks polish like a pole raised in Poland.... what else is he.
    It is pure racism to say he is not polish and i have polish parents and i am no pc fuk but this is just so
    incomprehensible to have such a mind set
    I mean are those poles in the us and brazil that barely speak polish and know nothing about poland more polish then him? Only because they got white skin?
     
  5. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why do people talk about race and heritage???

    Izu is as Polish as Szpilka.

    Let's talk about his fighting abilities!
     
  6. Drachenorden

    Drachenorden Active Member Full Member

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    In Eastern Europe nations have always been based on ethnicity and evolved from that. That's why you have national minorities living in other nations, like Polish national minority in Belarus, Hungarian minority in Slovakia and Romania and so on. Something that dumb Western Euros and Americans can't understand because they don't have a clue about history and how the nationalisms of specific European nations were formed and can't distinguish between ethnic and civic nationalism. This black HW isn't Polish.
     
  7. vladimir radchenko

    vladimir radchenko Member banned Full Member

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    There is no such thing as Rhodesia you dickhead. The name of the country is Zimbabwe.
     
  8. vladimir radchenko

    vladimir radchenko Member banned Full Member

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    By your standard, you aren't American either.
     
  9. vladimir radchenko

    vladimir radchenko Member banned Full Member

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    Wow I didn't know Maciano was Chirokee.
     
  10. Beyonce Wilder

    Beyonce Wilder Active Member Full Member

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    So.... in this thread: people unable to distinguish between ethnicity and nationality.
     
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  11. Drachenorden

    Drachenorden Active Member Full Member

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    There are no ethnicities in Eastern Europe anymore, ethnic groups evolved into nations via ethnic nationalism in the 19th century which was the prevailing form of nationalism in this part of the world.

    Tribe - ethnicity - nation. That's how the evolution took place. Polish nation is an evolved form of Polish speaking ethnic group(s). It is an organic community that among other things shares a common origin.

    This isn't USA which is a civic nation where a state was created and the people started to identify with it and then you have people of all kinds of origins saying that they're Americans. In the case of Poland it was the other way around, the people who shared polish NATIONAL identity created the nation state. Poland didn't exist as a state for many years (1795-1918) yet the Polish nation did.

    Like I said, people from Western Europe and USA are clueless about the identities of Eastern European nations because they don't know a single thing about Eastern European history and how those identities are formed.

    Slavic nations have always defined themselves on the basis of Slavic blood, they embraced ethnic nationalism instead of civic nationalism. If you're not of Slavic blood then you can't be part of those nations. You can be a citizen of the state of Poland but not Polish. That's how people always viewed their identity and regular person in Poland will never accept a black man as a Polishman. Just like Zulus in Africa wouldn't accept some Polish guy as a Zulu. The difference is that the Zulu ethnicity never evolved itself to the point of being a nation while the Polish ethnicity did. There is no Polish "ethnicity" now, there's Polish nation which is a national identity built on the ethnic grounds (on the basis of ethnic nationalism).

    If you look at the map of 19th century Europe very few Slavic states existed yet Slavic nations did exist because the Slavs identified themselves with ethnic nationalism and considered themselves as being part of some specific Slavic nation despite not having a (nation-)state yet. Then at different points in history those nation-states were build on the grounds of ethnic nationalism and that's why you now have Poland, Croatia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Ukraine, Serbia etc. States that in 1800 couldn't be found on the map.

    On the other hand Western Euro and North American national identities were built on the already existing states of France, Britain, Spain (the exceptions being Italy and most of all Germany) and people just started to identify with that. Those nations weren't built on the ideas of ethnic nationalism that's why the national identities there can absorb foreigners and guys like Lewis Hamilton and Anthony Joshua are viewed as British (I don't dispute that). But in Eastern Europe ethnicity and nation is one and the same, to be more precise nation is the evolved form of ethnicity. If you say that someone is a Pole or say a Slovak or a Serb it will always carry ethnic connotations, people won't expect someone looking like Joe Frazier to pop up. That has nothing to do with racism it's just the way that people perceive their identity.

    Americans simply envy the Slavs and Eastern Euros because the Slavs are part of REAL nations, real organic communities that are built on blood and centuries of common history while Americans are just a bunch of people with American passport.
     
  12. Drew101

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    Given the fact that John Abraham Godson and Killion Munyama (both black) have been elected to the Sejm, and therefore serves as representatives of ethnic Poles in the area of government, I don't think it's beyond the realm of imagination that Izuagbe could ultimately be seen by Poles as a perfectly capable representative for Poland should he continue to be successful...especially since he was born in the area, speaks the language and obviously has understanding, knowledge and affinity with its culture. Just because a nation has evolved into its current state on the basis of ethnicity shouldn't mean that it's incapable of evolving further in terms of how it views those within its borders.
     
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  13. lewis gassed

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    If Uzzy beats Brazil then Wilder will go nowhere near him.