Thoguht on GGG vs Ward

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  1. joeyp130

    joeyp130 Active Member Full Member

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    With all the talk back and forth on GGG and Ward--168 or 164, were serious offers made, who made what offer and when, etc--

    Maybe it was GGG's team that didn't even want to try and set up the fight. Maybe they knew it would be a nightmare to negotiate. Maybe they new it would be weeks and weeks turning to months to even get a deal done.

    It appears as if Ward doesn't want to fight. C'mon--6 weeks to put together the Barrera fight and there still is no deal in place?

    I like Ward. I loved watching him through the Super 6. But the guy--or his team--just seem like they really don't want to get a deal done.

    If I had to guess. The Sk fight doesn't happen this year
     
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  2. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ward ain't beating barrera, he get killed by ggg and Kovalev. Barrera is way too much for a guy who's best win is froch from 5 years ago
     
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  3. joeyp130

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    Maybe you are right. Maybe that's why we are at 6 weeks and still no deal in place.
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Shhhhhh I think we're scaring Ward. That's why he's been delaying the fight.
     
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  5. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't understand this. Wouldn't announcing the fight be better for the promotion? This way you can start selling tickets?
     
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  6. joeyp130

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    That's the problem Doc. They can't really formally announce a fight that's still not signed.

    I am not sure what the hold up is, but given the past history, I would say it is Wards side dragging this out.
     
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  7. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So they don't care if it gets 2 weeks of promotion? Ward doesn't care is the Oracle is half empty. As long as he gets his $2 mil he his happy. The Kovalev fight will never get made.
     
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  8. joeyp130

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    I can't pretend to know what he cares or doesn't care about. I can only go on past history.

    This fight should have been signed by now.
    I am not sure of the rules, but I am sure they can't start selling tickets or actually promoting the fight until a deal is done.

    Past history would tell me at least there is one side that hasn't shown too much interest in getting in the ring.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    Ward is notoriously hard to deal with. That's why the GGG/Ward fight was never made. That and the fact that there was probably not enough money for both of them.
     
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  10. Uppercut_Artist

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    I seriously doubt the problem is actually Ward, but Roc Nation.

    Roc Nation seems to be ineffective at closing big fights. They are getting on-the-job training, at Ward's expense. Plus, unlike Cotto, Ward doesn't seem too business savoury either.

    Cotto has more experience at making fights through his promotion company, but Ward doesn't seem to have the same ambitions in business and is letting Roc Nation lead.

    Ward picked the wrong promoters, again.
    Roc Nation is probably trying to figure out how to work their boxers into Tidal. :lol:
     
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  11. BCS8

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    Uppercut may have a point. Maybe Ward needs himself some new promoters.
     
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  12. ryuken87

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    I don't think sincere offers were ever made for a GGG-Ward fight. People just need to move on.
     
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  13. Pinkman

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    Ward used GGG's name to stay relevant. And for the record, Ward will duck Kovalev, despite whatever guarantee he has from HBO.

    :deal
     
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  14. The Shockmaster

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    the guy who said "I don't think sincere offer were ever made" is correct

    its hard to make a sincere offer when loeffler says "well it will have to be at 164(knowing ward is going to lhw trying to squeeze one last fight at 168 for a big showdown)....but we want to unify that's our plan now so maybe 2017 is possible"........so what would ward do other than realize they aren't interested?
     
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  15. ryuken87

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    I think it goes both ways. GGG's people knew Ward would never come to 164, did a serious offer ever come from Ward's people? It was all talk with nothing of substance.
     
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