Thomas Hearns .Vs. Roy Jones Jr. @ 160.

Jones won't need 14rounds

(1. Mallinga who beat Benn, also arguably robbed against Benn/Eubank, 2. Wolfe that went 12 with Toney in his prior fight, 3. Tate who went 12 with Julian Jackson)

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To be honest Thomas Tate, Glenn Wolfe and Thulani Malinga were statues who were intimidated by Jones' speed. Hearns was always more than willing to throw bombs with the best of them, sometimes to his advantage or disadvantage.

I just can't see Hearns going into a shell against Jones. I could see Jones being more cautious in respect to Hearns' punching power though.

 

Its not about being afraid, its about who's the better faster boxer and Jones is that man. Speed isnt about fear its about getting punched before you can punch and not being able to do anything about it.

Jones isnt Schuer and Hearns isnt Wolfe but all that aside the only x-factor against Jones is his supposed weak chin, you've posted a video showing Jones take Hopkins shots who was a devastating offensive force at that stage and smarter than Hearns. What evidence is there hearns would even land much given Toney and Hopkins who are more proven at the weight couldnt?

 

After a couple of rounds of being countered off of everything Hearns threw, he would be intimidated too. James Toney became intimidated, so did Hopkins. He was just too fast, and there wasnt too many answers other than trying to either time him coming in with luck, or make him lead and try and counterpunch him, something Hearns would never do.

 

I'm not sure if Hopkins was too devastating or smart at that point of his career.

Hearns set people up brilliant for his right hands, which were thrown with much more speed and power than Hopkins's. He landed his right hand on every man he ever faced.

It's not like Hearns didn't have some handspeed of his own:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpmJiRaXnIY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZdLJAYzV9M

 

I can't believe how many are picking Roy. Hearns by KO. Roy is not in the league of Hearns, Leonard and Hagler. Roy fought a bunch of stiffs who were standing there staring at him while he looked at the camera and danced while making funny faces.

 

:rofl You make funny joke

 

I'm battling to pick a winner here, even after reading all the posts...tough one.

Hearn's durability is a big question mark, but I do think that Hearn's vicious offense could intimidate Roy, provided he can land his shots.

 

Once again, posters seem to forget how devastating -and fast- Hearns was.

Hearns will not be outboxed. He is too long, too technically sound not to make Roy pay for mistakes, he is too fast, he hits too damn hard, and he is as willing as Roy Jones is unwilling to take risks. Hearns will intimidate the inexperienced, fearfully managed Roy Jones upon the first right hand that he lands. Roy will not be the fearless warrior that ESB Classic's history revisionists imagine against a 26-year old Hearns.

Hearns via KO within 5.



At SMW, it's a different story.

 

Well that really is a big factor in this discussion. If you are talking about a prime experienced Hearns (or Hagler for the sake of the other thread), against a somewhat green 160 pound Jones, that would make a huge difference. But if we are talking both fighters at their best, argueably 168 for Jones, than I would pick Jones against just about anyone. Too fast.

 

Ha Hearns jab was an extremely fast piston that would knock jones back IMO, IMO heans wacks him out early by jab to the body and HUGE right hand upstairs and that savage left hook to the body can take some of the gas out of jones's tyres. Or he takes a descison.

Jones was faster but he wasnt a bigger puncher and he lacked boxing fundamentals at 160 that a guy like Heans can exploit. People need to watch the Roldan fight for example and see that in fact Tommy's chin was average but not of the finest china as some seem to think. The shuler video sums it all up for me.

 

Hopkins a devastating offensive force? :rofl ok Hopkins who at that stage in his career was smarter than Thomas Hearns? the man who outboxed Wilfred Benitez? Hearns who Ko'd Cuevas, Duran, Shuler, and who battered leonard to the ground twice as well as outpointng Virgil Hill at LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT. Hopkins also landed a number of right hands but didnt hav the power.

RJJ at 160 is NOT GOD

 

Hearns wasnt that devastating at 160 and he wasnt nearly as devastating and fast as Jones at the weight. Who is Hearns best wins at the weight? Past prime Roldan? Past Prime WW Leonard? Struggling to an MD against gatekeeper Kinchen? The 2 best offensive forces flattened him at 160

You actually say Hearns is 'too fast' which is laughable in a match up with RJJ. Too long? 2inches in height and a slight reach advantage, the exact height/range as Hopkins who couldn't use them against a Jones with an injured hand.

BTW Jones fought impressively at 160 the fight before schooling James Toney

 

If you don't think Hopkins was a devastating offensive force in the 90s, then you haven't seen him fight in the 90s and need to stay quite on the subject

 

Hearns was an established forced before he ascended to 160. His frame could handle the extra-weight well and he was in his prime years during his tenure there.

If you don't think [Hearns]was a devastating offensive force in the [80s], then you haven't seen him fight in the [80s] and need to stay quite [um. quiet?] on the subject.

Hearns and Hopkins are very different fighters. Hearns had demon speed and power himself and if you think Jones would be comfortable handling that, you don't know what you are talking about.

Let's count how many times Hearns "fought impressively" in his first 41 fights!

PS/ I'm not looking forward to the next potential Roy Jones thread -Jones vs. Joe Louis. I'll retire to bedlam after that one.