Those who are convinced Margarito will take Cotto's "0," get in here.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Slothrop, May 14, 2008.


  1. 41fever

    41fever Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,811
    0
    Jul 16, 2005
    Mosley has a good chin but not like Williams/Margarito. Forrest tested it.
     
  2. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

    5,852
    2,566
    Mar 24, 2005
    I like Margo because:
    1. He makes good fights.
    2. I think he sounds honest
    3. He has a chance to bust up PBF

    The reason I think he will beat Cotto is that he is big, he can take a punch, he has two fisted power and Cotto has shown vulnerability in punch resistance.

    Cotto fought most of his fights at 140 and he is now facing Margo at 147. I really doubt Cotto can knock him out if he couldn't KO SSM. Remember, SSM is a shadow of what he was, so don't think that was a great victory.

    If the fight goes ahead, and there are currently doubts from Cotto's end (he is probably weighing up the risk/reward), then I think Margo could end it early. However, I think this is unlikely, because Cotto did get his feet back against Torres. As it goes to the later rounds it becomes more of a pick'em fight, but Margo's size and conditioning might overwhelm Cotto who might get TKOed late.

    Otherwise, considering Cotto has shown a degree of boxing ability lately, he has a chance for a close decision, which I believe is his only chance.
     
  3. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

    6,322
    3
    Jun 24, 2006
    Prett solid analysis on why Margarito can definitely take this one.

    Cotto obviously can win by outboxing and pounding Margarito but eventually, Margo's size and toughness will prove to be too much for Cotto to overwhelm.
     
  4. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

    21,873
    3
    Feb 27, 2008
    I'm more of a Cotto fan, but I can look at this fight from both sides ...

    a) there is a question mark on Cotto's beard
    b) Cotto hasn't seen a fighter w/ a relentless style like Margarito's
    c) Margarito has a very high work-rate, throws a ton of punches per round, and is in tremedous shape
    d) This guy is able to make his opponents adapt to his style
    e) Margarito has a great chin, his stamina is top notch, and his endurance isn't matched by many welterweights.

    all these things can factor into a Margarito victory ... he can make Cotto fight his style, he can make Cotto fight at a higher pace than he's used to, he can touch Cotto at the right spot and end the night early.
    people (along w/ myself think that Cotto has what it takes) but the fact that Cotto has never seen a guy like this doesn't help him either. Add to that, that Margarito has nothing to lose and all to gain ...

    Cotto has shown that he aims to please and he will exchange with guys in order to please the crowd ...

    If Cotto falls into the traps set ... then he will be in for a long night and possibley lose the fight all together.
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

    18,436
    20
    Jan 16, 2005
    Anybody who actually favours Margarito, or thinks this will be very competitive needs to learn more about boxing. Margarito is not anywhere near this level, if the Clottey and Williams fights didn't prove that outright and the Cintron fight recently won Margarito's favour for you, please study boxing a bit.

    The sad part is that people will be blown away by how easily Cotto destroys such a limited opponent, only because they actually regard Margarito as something significant, then they will be like 'Cotto P4P #2':patsch , flipping out like a bunch of uneducated ducks. The reality is that the Mosely win means more and will always mean more, as Mosely is an A level and Margarito is a B- level that can't do anything to the elite.

    Hell, even the Quintana destruction means more and this fight will be over about as quickly, as Margarito has no defence and is weak to the body.

    Enough of this bull****. Boxing fans are utter morons sometimes.
     
  6. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

    21,873
    3
    Feb 27, 2008
    Why don't you ask that guy from your avatar who he thinks would win ... I think he knows a bit more about boxing than you do.

    You can't just look from the outside and figure out who's going to win ... you have to look alot deep into the situation ...

    Chin, Speed, boxing ability, power, endurance, stamina, selection of punches, defense, ring generalship, ability to cut off the ring, inside fighting, stance, experience, quality of opposition, their teams, their entourage, where they train, who do they spar with, level of training, past fights, how they handled adversity, adjustments made in the ring, tactics, footspeed, handspeed ... height, natural weight, length ... its so much **** that goes into fights like this.

    You can't base it on what Cotto has done recently ... you find yourself looking stupid ...

    How will Cotto handle this guy who never stops coming ... yeah you can say Cotto will do this and that but where not in Cotto's head.

    Hell you know what Margarito brings to the table ... you know how he's going to fight, because he fights the same way all the time.

    Its a toss up fight and Cotto should win, but will he ... we shall see !!
     
  7. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

    8,161
    3
    Feb 4, 2006
    What exactly do you think was proven when Williams eeked by Margarito? All I saw was a gigantic welterweight who soaked up a huge amount of damage and won on alot of pitty pat shots. You somehow see that as relevant to a 5'7" former 140lb champion who is probably as natural 147lbs as they get. How I haven't a clue. Cotto doesn't have the durability of Paul Williams. The distinction is very clear.
     
  8. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

    45,885
    3
    Aug 7, 2004
    Im not convinced as I am picking Cotto to win, but I give Margo a great shot.
     
  9. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

    21,873
    3
    Feb 27, 2008
    You have to give Margarito a shot ... he has nothing to lose ...
     
  10. Shifty107

    Shifty107 The MARVELOUS ONE! Full Member

    1,124
    0
    Apr 21, 2008
    Thanks Def. :patsch

    In that case pretty solid straight right, but i see nothing to convince me that he will beat cotto. Once again it will be entertaining to say the least. Boxing is the real winner here.
     
  11. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

    8,161
    3
    Feb 4, 2006
    The answer is in those uppercuts. The uppercuts coming from such a big fighter inside is instrumental against smaller opponents. Smaller opponents don't expect that a bigger man can hit with those short range uppercuts.
     
  12. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

    21,873
    3
    Feb 27, 2008
    The question is Cotto's chin ... can his chin stand up?
     
  13. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

    11,540
    2
    Nov 25, 2004
  14. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,853
    0
    Jul 7, 2007
    I pretty much covered this in a recent YouTube video.
     
  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

    18,436
    20
    Jan 16, 2005
    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    I don't think anybody can own themselves like I can when these bold/confrontational predictions go wrong.