Thought Jerker : If Ali was never born , Who woulda been The GOAT!!!

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  1. RogerB

    RogerB THE OLD GREY WOLF!! Full Member

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    I say Sugar Ray Robinson ...Record speaks for itself ... Heart not questionable ..ability/skill..second to none ..

    What say the 'experts' ????
     
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  2. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    SRR is the GOAT

    Ali is 3rd for me
     
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  3. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't even have Ali in my Top10 ... there are more deserving fighters. For me there is no clear cut GOAT, there are 4-6 fighters on a very similar level who could claim this position.
     
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  4. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    ali isn't the GOAT.
     
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  5. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Robinson is GOAT in my eyes anyway. Ali's position in the All Time list is based alot on his decisions outside the ring as much as his achievements in the ring.
     
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  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Yeah, Ali is not a consensus GOAT. Or even close. SRR usually gets the honor. Harry Greb and Hank Armstrong get the honor on many lists too. Ali is most often considered the GOAT at heavyweight, but not the pound-for-pound GOAT. Even Ali called SRR the GOAT, as did Joe Louis and Floyd Patterson. Ali isn't even really the definitive ATG heavyweight. Many feel it's Louis.
     
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  7. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good I have Louis and Ali tied for number one at hw and Langford up there with Greb, Robinson and Armstrong with Charles and Fitzsimmons just slightly behind them. I know guys who think Fitzsimmons should be number one and there are arguments to back that claim.
     
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  8. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    Who puts Ali ahead of SRR anyway?
     
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  9. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Gah! I didn't mention Langford! :patsch Good call. I just woke up half an hour ago. If it were 45 minutes, I would've mentioned him. :D
     
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  10. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Apparently this TS does. Ali done hypnotized him by saying it over and over again.
     
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  11. Thread Stealer

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    Joe Louis.

    I'm only speaking about the HW division, since most people don't consider Ali the greatest (overall) anyway.
     
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  12. s23041983

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    Marciano
     
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  13. RogerB

    RogerB THE OLD GREY WOLF!! Full Member

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    Dude ..as I said Its a thought jerker , im playing devils advocate ..i love the debate ..

    It is generally assumed that Ali is the GOAT ..also stated my opinion is different ..
     
    RogerB, Mar 10, 2010
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  14. Dude

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    Which means Mayweather will be his GOAT soon enough
     
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  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Robinson was the best p4p fighter that ever lived, Ali was 2nd p4p in my book & no1 at HW.

    If Ali was never born, Joe Louis would have been the greatest HW ever no doubt.
     
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