Thoughts on AJ (Video)

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Working on my Parker one now, and hoping to have it finished by the weekend.

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  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Excellent point!
     
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  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Not Wilder's fault Ortiz failed a drug test either. But his choosing to fight him certainly was. Anyway, you irritating little bugger, why you still pedaling the Ortiz myth? No one's buying that anymore. Ortiz was a bum-beater and a druggie who ducked a career high payday against Joshua. He doesn't deserve to be talked about in the same company as genuine top fighters.

    Wilder's career is indeed over, and now people can look back and properly evaluate how it turned out, and it's not flattering. Fickleness? Nah. People always suspected Wilder was a coddled fraud. We just now have confirmation of that. Had he taken more risks in his career and achieved greater things he'd be looked on more fondly. Wins over Povetkin, Whyte, Ruiz or Parker would have catapulted his standings, assuming he could actually have beaten them.
     
  4. It's Ovah

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    I don't believe he trained properly for Ngannou and likely thought it'd be a walk in the park. The thing is lots of top fighters throughout history have done this and received shocks as a result. The difference is that the really top guys still turn it around in the ring and pull out a win. Their experience takes over and lets them claw their way back. Fury couldn't do this. After the initial shock of the knockdown and Ngannou battering him about in the clinch Fury should have adapted and swept the fight clean from around the fourth onwards. Instead he got battered about some more, rocked, knocked down again, forced to throw a desperation foul, and spent the last few rounds backpedaling furiously trying to run out the clock. The official decision was of course BS and everyone including Fury knew it, but that was the fight that really made me realise Fury just doesn't have it anymore. He can't adapt to adverse situations like in the past, and if he can't do that then his chances against Usyk drop to nil.
     
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  5. It's Ovah

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    There's a cadre of guys who exist just to slag Joshua off at every turn and a lot of people still can't shake that fake bodybuilder image he had early in his career, or get over the Ruiz loss. I understand that, and thought Joshua was gifted the Olympic gold and fast-tracked to a title shot over other worthwhile fighters at the time. But these past few years he's turned my opinion around with consistently challenging fights and a no-nonsense approach to his career that has seen him shun the media criticisms and continue to improve fight on fight.

    He's so far from the coddled Olympic hypejob he came into the sport as and become a genuinely great fighter who's still learning and adding elements to his game. A hypejob would have quit the sport after the Ruiz loss and everyone saying he was done and never any good to begin with. Joshua came right back and beat Ruiz. Many fighters of a tougher calibre may have quit after the second Usyk fight where Joshua was outboxed for a second time. He had his mini breakdown sure, but then he got back on the horse and had four fights in the past year, one against a man many were saying was going to smash his head in. He's now gunning for the top guys again, and if he loses I don't doubt we'll see a resurgent Joshua yet again because this is the character he seems to have but never really knew up to now.
     
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  6. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    AJ is starting to get super overrated, okay he beat Helenius and Ngannou in impressive fashion. But it was Helenius and Ngannou. He should beat those guys.
    There is nothing that AJ did that was aboev what everybody expected him to do.

    The fact that Fury is not reliable and almost lost to Ngannou shouldn´t make Joshua better,
     
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  7. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why should we forget about it? Cause it doesn't fit your narrative?
     
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  8. vast

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    Because Fury didn’t take it seriously. It was a sidecshow
     
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  9. African Cobra

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    Well put together Rummy with excellent analysis as usual.
     
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  10. SmackDaBum

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    Just went thru some fights. Kubrat Pulev has a very underrated chin. Both Joshua and Klitschko hit him many times with legit KO punches but he wanted many more before going down.

    A guy like Vitalis Klitschko didnt get his chin as tested as Pulev. Just some heavy shots here and there.

    Pulev would have a super man chin in UFC.
     
  11. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manufactured brand with massive money and scheming handlers running the show.
    His run since Usyk is pathetic.
    Parker is fighting the people AJ was supposed to fight.
    And Parker has single-handedly exposed AJ and his team. The fact he has openly done that on the same shows demonstrates how easily the 'market' is manipulated. It's quite scary.
     
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  12. drenlou

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    Good video Rummy, looking forward to the Parker video. He had a great performance against Zhang.
     
  13. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson Fury is owning his shitty performance. Don't be a fanboy and stop making excuses for the man.
     
  14. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not a fanboy dip****. Just stating facts
     
  15. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This video is the proof that the British lobby will rob Usyk and match Fury vs Joshua for the undisputed heavyweight title.

    They want the belts come to Britain, and it will. Nothing can hinder British lobby's plans.