Thoughts on Dwight Muhammad Qawi

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I know the man was a decent fighter and saw him fight a few times myself, though it was towards the end of his career. He did win belts in two weight classes, and had some decent victories.

    But frankly I have some question as to his rating at light heavy.. Ring magazine has him somewhere between 15-20.. Does anyone think this is a tad high? Not trying to belittle his accomplishments, but truthfully there's nothing that's particularly glaring to me. His light heavyweight record was something like 19-2-1, and really only briefly held one fraction of the title for maybe 4 bouts. He does have a huge claim to beating an all time great in Saad Muhammad, but beating one great fighter is kinda slim in my opinion.... Once again he was a good fighter and a tough opponent, but I don't know if I'd call him an all time great unless someone convinved me otherwise... I'll leave that up to you.
     
  2. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not an ATG for sure but as you rightly said he was one tough customer who beat the living crap outer another tough customer in Saad.

    Question is how many other Lt/Heavy's naturaly come to mind in an instance? It's always the Camden Buzzsaw & Saad for me & what has always made his name stick in mind all over these years is that he was only 5'6" or about:yikes

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  3. DocFriend

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    I will always remember how impressive Qawi was against the comebacking George Foreman. A true David vs Goliath matchup. Qawi was almost hitting George at will, and George really had to resort to some questionable techniques to keep Dwight off of him. George I think badly underestimated Qawi who, if he had a little more natural size (his cardio lacked due to carrying too much fat in this one) and power, could have won that fight, perhaps by ko.

    Another interesting story about that match was that George was the lightest for that fight than at any other time in his comeback, 235. George looked great, but his performance seemed flat. Perhaps the combination of the buzzsaw attack and the weight loss is what made that fight so unexpectedly competitive.
     
  4. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually think it's spot on. In fact, I have Qawi just inside, or on the fringes of, the top 10.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Agreed, the guy could really fight. I'd bet he would have beaten some above himself at 15 too.
     
  6. Baldwin

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    He was a tough SOB. legend in my books. He would cause LHW and CWs and some HWs problems today easily.
     
  7. salsanchezfan

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    In a head to head sense I don't think many have a prayer against him at 175. It took a terrific performance from a true great like Spinks to just edge him, and Spinks had to really work and focus to get that win. Not a lot of clean punches in that fight, but it was one of the more intense and tense battles you could see.
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Brilliant fighter, really like watching Qawi and agree he is a H2H nightmare for most Light-Heavy's.

    I think his resume at 175lbs is pretty good if brief, he has one great win (MSM I) and then basically cleaned up on other contenders around, before losing to an ATG Mike Spinks in a close fight (IMO).
     
  9. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    your right Conn and thats why I don't even bother to try and place fighters!

    you might be accurate in saying that 3, 5 or 10 of them are "probably" the Best Ever in thier divisions, but outside of that you got dozens and dozens that are near as great and not much between them one to each of the rest of the best.

    always thought it was more honest and accurate to think of fighters as AMONG the Best or Greats, because over the long history thats true!
     
  10. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good

    Didn't compile the greatest resume, but for a short while there he was a force to be reckoned with.

    The type of guy that would have stopped Bernard Hopkins from even contemplating entering the light heavyweight scene.
     
  11. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not sure how to rate Qawi all i know is RJJ would give him a boxing lesson in their primes.
     
  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Get the **** outta here **** :lol:
     
  13. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy couldn't get his boxing style to work against a similarly diminutive LHW with good head movement and infighting skill.

    What do you think is going to happen when he meets a Montell Griffith with a punch and a chin?
     
  14. Big N Bad

    Big N Bad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    PERSONALLY, I think he beats any LHW on a given night. very tough cookie. former undisuputed cruiserweight and heavyweight champ said dwight qawi was his toughest fight. he went to give foreman a tricky fight until he decided to call it a day due to exaustion.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

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    I think this thread shows he gets a bit overrated. His power, skills, defence, chin all no joke. But being 5'6 and often movement reduced to plodding forward would see him have with pure boxers. Circling to his left and jabbing, keeping range, while moving in and out to put power shots together like Spinks did to him largely neutralised him. Obviously if he does close the range he's a monster. Although Holyfield outboxed him in the pocket too. So I think quite a few outbox and outmanoeuvre him.

    Achievement wise beating Saad Muhammed twice is a very good win, M Spinks is a great opponent he came short against. Against a green Holyfield he came up a little short past his best again. Leon Spinks I'm not really sure how much he had left at that stage

    Overall his resume a tad thin and he comes up a little short when facing the best. Not that he wouldn't beat some of histories finest LHWs too. Should he be in the top 15-20 LHWs, I'd have to see people's lists, legacy wise probably not, ability wise he probably makes it.