Thoughts on Garcia vs Judah outcome

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  1. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    -I believe Zab was one to think(im sure he was quoted saying) that Danny only had a good left hook. So many fans said Danny doesnt have a good right hand but i expected him to potshot to Zabs body with right hands.

    -I liked how Danny fired the right hand, stepped over with his right leg falling into a southpaw stance and throwing a quick right jab to avoid a counter and keep Zab off set. Great move which looked awkward at first but was more effective as the fight went on.

    -His aggression and volume made Zab uncomfortable and i was shocked Danny was staying so close, and exchanging with Zab at times. He was playing with fire all night and i could feel a big left landing but his constant pressure kept Zabs hands home for defense.

    -Both fought like absolute warriors.

    -I dont believe Zabs stamina has been an issue but his mental game, to be able to still let ur hands go and fight through the pain. He fell apart more mentally than physically in the past. Even when hurt bad tonight, he was composed and focused on fighting back instead of lookkng for a way out or to complain.

    -There wasnt as much steam on Dannys shots late and he looked a bit winded/volume lowered. Would like to see some more head movement ofcourse.

    -Angel kept telling him stop trying to counter punch cuz ur sacrificing urself to land. Go forward and punish him. That was great advice but in the late rds, Judahs movement made Danny fight the wrong fight and allowed Zab to get off and sharp shoot.

    -Then Danny, even when hurt bad, he went toe to toe, exchanging with a faster fighter who hits as hard if not harder.

    Garcia is the real deal and anyone at 140 wouldve had a lot of problems with tonights Zab Judah.
     
  2. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was shocked how Judah only threw his counter upper cut only a handful of times. The first time being very late in the fight. I guess Garcia made him uncomfortable with the idea of letting it go. Maybe cause Garcua seldom fully committed to his right hands. He threw them with conviction but didn't step into them. He also threw a variety of rights, which probably made Judah weary. I kept expecting that vicious upper cut.
     
  3. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    He varied the right hand well as Paulie noted. For all his antics, Angel's a good trainer I think. He was right on his advice. When Garcia was pressing he looked great. He's naturally less effective on the back-foot, but still an adequate counter-puncher.
     
  4. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was also funny how Garcia took a perfect left from Judah with no issues just before he scored one of his kds but starting from the 10th on, anytime Judah landed a semi decent shot, you could clearly tell Garcia was bothered by them. Boxing is so unpredictable.
     
  5. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Speaking of Paulie, i think he's a great color guy. He brings true insight. Like the variety of right hands being thrown. It's very subtle and most fans would've probably never picked that up unless if it was mentioned.
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're right about the counter uppercut. But in the early rounds it was too risk to go inside and try to land that uppercut. He was content to stay on the outside early, and when he started to get Danny goin, then he threw the left uppercut late.
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I thought it was close and could go either way.

    Judah looked real good and I think he's gonna be around until he loses to a fringe level guy.
     
  8. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Garcia is starting to impress me a little bit. He's a good fighter . He's not notably talented or special looking, but he's got an all around good skillset, and he thinks pretty well. Also got some real good punching power. The only flaws I see is that he drops his hands a lot, and he throws real winging / looping shots. Someone with a tight defense and sharp punching can take advantage of that.


    Judah looked a little better then usual, but all the same problems are there - or problem i should say , which is his mental focus. He just doesnt have it in him to throw enough punches, and as soon as he starts getting touched, he backs off / shuts down. Judah's never been able to overcome this problem.
     
  9. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To be honest I don't really rate Garcia that highly. Maybe like an Arthur Abraham Light Welter Weight!
     
  10. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Was Arthur Abraham ever a unified and lineal champion?
     
  11. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No but Abraham was never in a division where he was promoted by a promoter who had all the belts. Garcia was handed two winnable fights against Morales and Khan to become 'unified' and 'lineal' champion.

    Anyone knows that belts mean less now but as far as Garcia is concerned I don't think he's the top guy at the division, I couldn't see him having any more success than Abraham did if he moves up a weight. He's just really tough with KO power and limited speed and skills, just like Abraham.
     
  12. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    What the **** are you talking about, who's better than him at Junior Welterweight? He was fed to Khan, not the other way around. Khan was the number 1 in the division after a controversial lost to Peterson who I felt he won. Then he had a mandatory rematch with Morales, then beat Judah 9 rounds to 3. This the same Judah that beat Matt. So if you rank either Matt or Pederson above Garcia, it doesn't really make sense since Garcia beat the guys who beat them. Like honestly I don't see the comparison at all, a better comparison would be to compare him to Pavlik and Matt to Abraham. Pavlik knocked out and beat the lineal and unified Middleweight champion and had a couple of defenses while making great money.
     
  13. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I really enjoy listening to Paulie as well, was impressed with how he can praise other fighters and never lets his own ego get in the way.
     
  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Garcia is always ready to unload with both hands after an exchange and is never rearly off balacnce which is what make him so dangerous and exciting.
    Good footwork.
    Top class boxer. A-
     
  15. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had Garcia winning but Judah fought well and i to noticed the lack of his uppercut. but that was part of his stratagey no doubt an adjustment for defensive reasons . For me broner Garcia would be good to see