Thoughts on Jones v Toney scorecards

Yeah a flash KD in a losing effort is far more impressive than basically shutting him out. Sounds legit.

 

Jones completely and utterly schooled him in a Superfight.

 

You really are clueless aren’t you?

 

The way Johnson alters and re-alters his moves just prior confuses Toney, who becomes focussed on countering the jab; it was a beautiful move at a very high skill level. It wasn’t some silly party trick jumping in trying his luck against a punch bag (Jones fight ‘KD’).

One is a very clean knockdown from a clean punch set up brilliantly, the other a push into the ropes. It’s silly and laughable to suggest the Jones one was as impressive as the infamous Johnson one.

 

The difference in smoothness and skill looking at the two knockdowns again is chalk and cheese.

Certain posters here are quite scary.

 

Jones completely outclassed Toney.
I think that is worth repeating.

 

Oh Mark.

 

Well if losing a fight but scoring a little KD is more important than completely schooling the #2 P4P fighter then yes guilty as charged.

Damn happy for it too

 

Who was talking KD's only? Comprehension not your strong point?

 

Roy outclassed a true ATG in Toney in that fight. Toney was the consensus #2 P4P fighter in 1994. But Roy was superman at that time and outclassed about anybody.
Toney came off one of his career-best performances against Charles Williams but was totally flat in that fight from dehydrating. It wasn't the first or last time Toney wasn't able to get in proper fighting shape for a fight, but this was his 'superbowl'... It was a very big fight.

Roy landed a hook on Toney and then bumped into him right after, which caused Toney to loose balance and led to the famous 'knockdown'. It wasn't a real knockdown.

Roy still didn't land a lot of clean punches and said afterwards that Toney was the best defensive fighter he had faced in his career. But Roy also showed great defense himself in totally nullifiyng Toneys offense. Roy was a stylistic nightmare for a pure counterpuncher like Toney was by that time.

Some forgotten details about this fight:
-Toney landed the best punch of the fight, a huge right hand right on Roys chin, but Roy took it well;
-Toney had to lose 40+lbs during the 6 week camp leading up to the fight. He actually broke camp in frustration and asked his manager to cancel or postpone the fight, which didn't happen. That way, Toney lost some precious days before continuing camp. Not an excuse in any way, just a fact;
-it wasn't Roys first fight at the SMW limit, it was just his first title-shot there. Roy jumped between MW and SMW in 1993 and 1994. Roy actually struggled himself to make the 168lbs limit for this fight;
-Roy struggled with a hand injury during his camp.