Thoughts on Marquez's ko over Pac and a Mayweather REMATCH

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Genaro G, Dec 9, 2012.


  1. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol what a ****in fail! Mosley? Id bet more latinos support Mosley than blacks :lol: mexicans love Shane! And Canelo also fought on that undercard. And it was on a mexican holiday weekend! The **** is ur point bro? Floyd cant draw without his 0 and fighting a fighter that latinos support. He'll never be adored, supported and respected as much as a Cotto or Marquez :yep

    Damn u failed hard on that one man....
     
  2. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is a terrible fight and JMM would get embarassed again. Floyd is and always will be a terrible style matchup for him. If I was a JMM fan I wouldn't want him going anywhere near Floyd.
     
  3. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    So if Mosley is such a draw amongst Mexicans why didnt his fights with Oscar do as well? He'll he's fought plenty of Mexicans never done a mil before.

    And if Cottos so loved why was he fighting on HBO 10 years into his career unless he was fighting Pacquiao or Mayweather.

    Seriously quit while your behind, I'll make you take a knee lol
     
  4. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    I don't know or give a **** about the numbers...
    But I know Genaro makes a point when it comes to Shane.
    Here in southern Cali Mosley always had a big Latino following.
    ^Shane's style was that of the SoCal gyms.

    As for why Mosley/Oscar didn't sell as well???...
    I'd prob be safe in saying more fans prob wanted to see Oscar get that ass beat.
    (It took a while for "Mexican" fans to warm up to Oscar)
     
  5. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Shane woulda brought a tiny contingent but the majority were there to see Mayweather.
     
  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Like it or not, Mayweather also has a huge Latin following. :good
     
  7. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bro if it wasnt for DLH, Floyd wouldnt have done **** in PPV. A mexican made him a star. Hence why his hatton #s sucked, even after he beat the most famous fighter in he world in a very dissappointing event. Since then hes been taking us all on a ride, calling himself the face of boxing, and the #1 draw, but for some odd reason every opponent he faces is latino, on Cinco de Mayo, Mexican Independence day, with one of todays current most popular fighters in Canelo, CO-HEADLINING the event!

    Lol stop kidding urself bro, guys like Cotto and Marquez have always and will always be loved cuz they always fight with heart and always provide excitement plus they have the best fans in the world. You *****s wreak of jealousy and its very very sad to see. But it does give me a good laugh :yep
     
  8. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah it had nothing to do with the fact that Shane is well known amongst the latino fans, the fight was on a Mexican holiday and Canelo was on the card :lol: suuuure they were there to see Mayweather. Whatever helps u sleep at night :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  9. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    For the record...
    "Chicano" fans that DKSAB love both Manny & Mayweather above any other fighter.
    ^For what that 411 is worth.
     
  10. Slickstar

    Slickstar Crisp This Full Member

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    As an ethnic group no one loves boxing more than Mexicans, but is the Mexican contribution to PPVs being exaggerated?

    Tyson did monster numbers in a division that is Mexicanless.

    Mexican names aren't the majority when it comes to the most famous names in boxing (Louis, Robinson, Ali, Leonard, Tyson, etc).

    The greatest Mexican of our era Marquez didn't achieve universal recognition until he KTFO manny.

    Morales, a candidate for the most exciting Mexican of all time, had PPVs that did nowhere close to a million.

    JCC's drawing power was legit, and I can't say nothing there.

    Oscar was white washed and heavily backed by the "American" media. Some Mexicans even disowned his ass.
     
  11. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Me and another chicano boxing fan are huge Mayweather fans. Him more so than me, but ive grown tired of the politics and stupid ass nut huggers online :lol:
     
  12. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    He did 850,000 vs Hatton which is more than Cotto did vs Margarito. It also still holds the record in the UK. More than Hatton vs Pac or Haye vs Klit.

    To put it in perspective its about the number of buys Oscar did vs Vargas and Mosley 2.

    So against Hatton it would put Floyd around the top in PPV history.

    Uh oh feel someone bought to take a knee lol.
    Tito Trinidad beat Oscar. So did Mosley. Their numbers didnt see a bounce. He'll Tito rarely fought big time pay per views.

    And Saul Alvarez has been piggy backing off Mayweather. Golden Bou wisely seeing him as Mayweathers air and future opponent have been putting Alvarez on Mayweater undercards since Mosley. Nobody America knew who he was then. Fought Gomez on the Ortiz undercard, you think people bought it for that lol?

    Tell me when is Saul gonna headline is own ppv since hes such a massive draw?


    He is the number one draw in boxing.

    If their fans are so great by arent they the highest paid athletes in the world. Why was Cotto getting embarrassed by a prospect on Showtime?


    Why would I be jealous of you? I dont take knees lol. Walking around with grass stains on your jeans all day.
     
  13. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxing is being carried by latino fans right now. Heavyweights always did big #s because they produced knockouts in the most exciting fights. Mayweather may go down as a great but is he adored by fans like Cotto, Marquez and Pacquiao are? Or like DLH was? In regards to Marquez crossing over, the same is said about Floyd and pac crossing over when they fought DLH. Ill admit Floyds ability to sell a fight, with all that trash talk to hype his fights vs the guys who have fans DLH and Hatton. But guys like Gatti, Cotto and Marquez talk with their fists, provide excitement and give everything to make us happy which is why the *****s are so jealous of all the fans here who love those guys over the self-proclaimed face of boxing. In the end its business first with floyd, and he'll continue to use the latino fans to fill his bank account :yep
     
  14. MichiganWarrior

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    Mayweather is love in the black community and is up there with Kobe and Lebron. Hell when Andy Murray a tennis star compares himself to you you know you done it big.


    Arum said it himself that after Latinos, Blacks buy the most fights.

    Again if Cotto an Marquez are so adored (Marquez was considered the ******* of the Mexican trio because of his style for the longest), why arent thy doing big ppv numbers? Cotto has fought plenty of Mexicans doesnt do have Mayweathers bankroll.

    Your ***** need to take a knee kneegal?
     
  15. Slickstar

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    That's fine.

    What I'm trying to say is Oscar did numbers that no other Mexican has ever come close to, and Mexicans definitely didn't love him the most out of all their boxers. Oscar had something extra going for him; the American media liked to follow him. Like you mentioned earlier Floyd got mainstream exposure when he boxed Oscar. It allowed him to reel in America as a whole. Oscar laid the blueprint for doing great numbers by bringing in America and not just Mexicans.

    manny who made quite the career beating up a few Mexicans, two who Mexicans absolutely loved more than DLH, wasn't known to the public until he beat Oscar.

    It's the American public that a fighter needs to cater to in order to become a true blue star. Hosting fights on Mexican holidays is icing on the cake used to secure additional PPVs