Thoughts on Mayweather struggling with southpaws

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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    and a better combination puncher as well. Guerrero is taller, and has a better chin. But all that means is you're going to get whooped on longer by Floyd.
     
  2. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A better combination puncher? If u say so :huh
     
  3. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How vulnerable did Floyd look vs Cotto? Will he look as vulnerable vs Guerrero?
     
  4. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Short and sweet...I think for the most part this will be Guerrero's key...but even then Floyd is so good, he wins anyway. Floyd will show he can press the action in this fight...IMO he will be forced to...Bogo, Genaro...good reading guys enjoy it...:good
     
  5. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for reading buddy
     
  6. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruben Guerrero - “He (Mayweather) does it better,” he laughed, referring to Berto’s shoulder roll, “but we’re gonna break him down. It’s not gonna be the same fight as Berto; it’s gonna be a little different and he’s gonna find out. He thinks we’re gonna fight the same way we fought Berto, but Berto is a bigger, stronger guy and we had to do that with Berto. But we’re gonna be ready May 4th and people are gonna see what Team Guerrero’s all about and what kind of game plan we’re gonna put together.”
     
  7. Slickstar

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    My guess is they're going to try to "box" with Floyd.
     
  8. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats it brother.. And the CHIN bro! Pop that CHIN! Lol gotta love Ruben
     
  9. bald_head_slick

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    Floyd does NOT have a problem against southpaw fighters. Mayweather in each of his tough outings against southpaws, had a problem with something they brought to the table.

    Judah - Insane speed, quick reflexes, fairly defensively slick

    Corley - decent speed, extremely slick, rare mix of a tough/slick fighter (see Augustus)

    In both cases their natural gifts were enhanced by the fact that they were southpaws, but being a southpaw was in no way the deciding factor. His other tough fights?

    Augustus - tough/slick "fighter's fighter", brought intelligent pressure

    Castillo - Teak tough, relentless, broken hand

    Cotto - Jab

    At Mayweather's level of experience, he has seen more than enough of any style to be able to handle it. Fighters bring that element that makes the fight tough.
     
  10. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Zab aint as mentally tough and only looks good for 4 or 5 rds. Plus Floyds not gonna be on his tip toes pot shotting Guerrero like he did Castillo in the rematch. Guerrero is as tough and technically/fjndamentally skilled as Castillo was. And I already know Floyds gonna come forward as he always does vs souhpaws and as hes recently been doing since the Marquez fight. Maybe only Augustus hit Floyd as clean(due to his awkwardness offbeat style) as many of the southpaws Floyd has fought.

    Floyd is at his best behind the shoulder role, which is not as effective vs southpaws. Thats why he comes in with his guard up looking to get off first and get to close quarters so he can take their stance away. As someone said earlier, once you get on the inside vs a southpaw, he stops fighting like one. Because of Floyds come forward, aggressive style which he heavily relies on a lead right hand, that leaves him more vulnerable and hit cleaner than we are accustomed to seeing.
     
  11. bald_head_slick

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    I am not sure what you are saying here. You seem to be agreeing with my point then going off in a different direction. I am just saying that the tough fights that FMJ have had have nothing to do with the guy's stance. Every time, the guy brought some factor that made him more than just his stance. The dynamics of stance are what they are, but in every case FMJ has smashed the lesser fighter even when the opponent used the southpaw stance.

    Due to his record being perfect, we can't say anything as simple as a stance is a problem for Mayweather. If a guy is a stylistically tough fight for FMJ, the fight will be tough, regardless of stance. Also, Mayweather "tough" so far has looked very different from what we are accustomed to calling tough.
     
  12. casian72

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    He appears to struggle vs southpaw s because it takes him a little longer to adjust. But as soon as he does, he dominates.
     
  13. bballchump11

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    good find. I'll give you the win on this one :good
     
  14. Theron

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    :lol:
     
  15. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The stance has everything to do with it. If a southpaws right hook is the perfect counter to a lead right hand and is also a counter to the shoulder roll(hitting the left side of the body), then that negates Floyds best offensive and defensive move. It doesnt completely negate it but it forces Floyd to jump in and rely heavily on slipping a counter which is dangerous. He has to come out of his comfort zone to get on the inside vs a southpaw where he can control the fight. I applaud Floyd for being able to adjust and use his brilliant speed and reflexes to take over the fight but he looks pretty vulnerable to me when hes facing a southpaw. Guerreros ability to constantly pivot, hit and turn his opponent is also going to give Floyd fits.