Thoughts on Prince Naseem Hamad

How is it that Norwood-whose not in the same league as Naseem gave fits to JMM?

You do realize alot of people thought Barrera edged JMM in that bout?


JMM has had a more impressive career OVERALL but not a featherweight.
Getting dropped and losing a decison to NORWOOD and getting a lucky draw with PAC is a better body of work then anything Naseem did at featherweight?

 

Dude,there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with you.You just keep on misquoting me for some reason,and you keep on attributing things to me that I never wrote.And when I take you to task over it,you just ignore it and invent something else that I never wrote.And you have yet to answer the questions that I have asked you.For about the 6th time,Norwood won a wrestling match against JMM.Had the fight been officiated correctly,Norwood would not have been able to get away with what he did.One more time,do you rate Norwood over JMM?
And yes,I do realize that many people feel that MAB edged JMM in that bout.But,not even the most hardcore hamed excusemakers feel that hamed edged MAB.
AND ONCE AGAIN BECAUSE YOU'VE PROVEN YOURSELF INCAPABLE OF SEPARATED WHAT I WROTE AND WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE WHAT I WROTE.I NEVER WROTE THAT JMM HAD A BETTER BODY OF WORK THAN HAMED AT 126.I WROTE THAT JMM'S DRAW WITH PAC WAS MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN ANYTHING HAMED EVER DID IN HIS CAREER.WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU?WHY CAN'T YOU JUST GET WHAT I WROTE CORRECT?And just for the record,what's up with you're writing that JMM got a "lucky draw" against PAC(lol),when many believe he won that fight outright?I didn't see any luck involved and considering what just happened in their last bout,it most certainly was not "luck".
And there's another question you haven't answered.Just who on hamed's list of PRETTY GOOD victims would have drawn or beaten the 126 version of Pac?
You deny being a hamed fan,but you debate just like one:ignoring facts and just writing what you want to believe.If it quacks like a duck.....

 

Norwood was a badass mofo. He was just too stupid to realize how good he was and screwed his career up entirely.

 

Naseem Hamed is Clinton's favourite topic

 

Actually,when his fans talk him up and make their many excuses for him for just one loss,that's my favorite topic to respond to on ESB:good

 

Hamed fans dont brag about the WBO belt. Hamed had the WBC, WBA, IBF and lineal belts too. All the belts. Something Morales, Barrera, Chava all them guys would never of been able to do.

 

Norwood was definitely in the same league as Hamed, just nuts.

 

Norwood was never in the same league as Hamed-underrated but he would have lost to Hamed.

Norwood-Marquez bout wasn't a wrestling match-it was boring but it wasn't like Bonecrusher Smith-Tyson.Norwood made JMM miss ALOT.


I really didn't like Hamed but for a couple of years he was great-slick defense quick and could take you out with one shot-this would have been way too much for JMM to deal with.

See Clinton never followed JMM until he became popular-
ive been watching him for years.Hell I remember his bout with Julian Wheeler in which he was LOSING until he came back to stop Wheeler in the 10th round.And to be honest Wheeler got robbed-it was a HORRIBLE stoppage-I think they stopped it with 12 seconds left GIVING JMM the win.And guess what? WHEELER DROPPED MARQUEZ.

MAB and Morales never ducked JMM-they had no reason to.

So if getting dropped 3 times in the first round and gaining a DISPUTED DRAW is better then unifying the featherweight title and being UNBEATEN for 8 years then your an idiot.

 

If Salvador Sanchez had been a contemporary of hamed's,he would not only have beaten hamed and ALL of hamed's pretty good but nothing special list of victims,he would have done what hamed COULDN'T do and beat MAB,too.And had he fought hamed,Chava would have beaten hamed worse than MAB did.But thanks anyway.Thank you so much for laughs.You not only know nothing about boxing,but you are comedy gold..And just for the record,it's "would...have been able to do",not "would ...of been able to do".Thank you so much.

 

Hamed was GREAT for a couple of years?How so-due to his great opposition?Typical hamed fan.
JMM's dealt with Pac's power 3 times,but couldn't deal with hamed's?
And how could you possibly know when I started watching JMM?Not only are you a closet(but typical)hamed fan that denies facts and are a poor poster,but you're a rather presumptuous fellow too,aren't you?And so what Wheeler dropped JMM?We already dealt with this.JMM was dropped several times in his career.****,hamed was dropped 3 times by past it Kevin Kelley and hamed fans love to scream how great that victory was.
AND ONCE AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE APPARENT THAT YOU'RE INSANE!!JUST WHERE THE **** DID I EVER ****ING WRITE THAT MAB AND MORALES DUCKED JMM?SERIOUSLY DUDE,ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR ****ING MIND?
Getting a disputed draw???Many people actually felt that JMM won.And btw,you still haven't answered my question(actually one of many that you've conveniently avoided while lying about what I've written.Typical Hamed fan).And I'm the idiot?There's something for you called a mirror.Just who,WHO,on hamed's list of decent,but nothing special victims would have drawn or beaten that version of Pac?You mind answering for once?I doubt it.

 

Tom Johnson.And I wouldnt sleep on Medina either.

Now my questiono you consider Hopkins a great middleweight?

 

I know, he sounds ****ing obsessed. He's right in alot he says, naz didnt have the best competition but as well as who you fight theres also how you fight and in some of those fights he didn't just beat the opposition he ****in destroyed and humiliated them, ala johnson and robinson, who's record hid the real truth, he may have had 9 defeats but they were from early in his career, by the time he fought naz he was well respected and naz just ****in leathered him.
I loved watching him as a kid, he was a dick but was captivating when at his best. Surely boxing is about that as well ?
JMM has proved to be the better fighter over the years ,at the time though it would've been close.Naz is a rung below the likes of MAB, Morales and JMM but was still a great champion and was good for the sport.
By the way, that Steward interview is well worth listening to and theres a good one with Gatti talking about naz on the same page .

 

Tom Johnson would have beaten(or drawn with)Manny Pacquiao at 126?Are you ****ing serious?Are you sure you want to write that down on record?Just which opponent(s) and or performance(s) of Johnson's would indicate that he would have taken(or drawn with) Pac?The Johnson that beat Medina?And by writing,"And I wouldn't sleep on Medina either,"are you inferring that Medina may have beaten (or drawn with)Pac at 126,too?Am I missing something or are you talking about the same Medina that lost twice to Luisito Espinosa and was also stopped by Gainer?It's official.Hamed's deluded excuse makers have invaded the Classic.The best of all this is that you claim to have NOT been a hamed fan.You're a ****ing psycho.And just for shits and giggles,WHAT THE **** DOES HOPKINS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS THREAD,lol????

 

You still haven't answered a multitude of my questions.
JMM has dealt with Pac's power 3 times,but couldn't deal with hamed's?
Which opponents and performances of Medina's and Johnson indicate either one is a match for Pac at 126?
Where did I ever write that Morales and MAB ducked JMM?
Wtf does a fantasy matchup like Arguello-JMM or Arguello-Pedroza have to do this thread?
Do you rate Norwood over JMM?
Where did I write that it wasn't possible for hamed to drop JMM?
Where did I write Medina and Soto weren't good?
Where did I write that Johnson was SHOT when he fought hamed?
I gotta give you credit.You're a funny fellow

 

I actually agree with about half of this post