Thoughts on Solis vs. V. Klitschko?

I agree with this much. I don't know if he's going to fade or not, but I don't see how Solis's management can turn down this offer. It's a massive payday for a fight he might not get if he gets done in by someone less good in the meantime. So I agree with you about Solis striking now, he's no choice really, just as Chisora had no choice when Wlad tried to fight him.

But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about, firstly, the public and boxing. Both should be protected by opponents having to earn their title shots by beating other men who are in line for one. Solis has not done that.

That's a minor point. The major one is, what is Solis's standing as an opponent for a champion? Green and fat with fast hands is the answer. There are several better choices.

The fight is interesting, I will be watching - so I know he's better than Klitschko's last two. But at 17-0 with no (I think) ranked contenders amongst the beaten, he's a shameful opponent, really.

And littered with opponents who lose to opponents they would thrash when more experienced.

Vitali might ruin him in some way, and i've no idea what's going to happen with his conditioning, but he will learn such lessons against Vitali tonight that he will be a better fight in 12 hours than he is right now, in some aspects.

 

So what? What is the significance of the period of time? Do you think fighters obtain experience by being alive? It's the fights that make the fighter experienced.

No, it is not. It is the opponent that is important, not the bauble. You really can't see the difference between fighting Herbie Hide in fight #24 and Vitali Klitschko in fight 17? Your comparison would be kind of valid (minus seven fights, most of them at least at title level) if Klitschko had fought Lennox Lewis for his first world title, but he did not.

It's a question of levels, and entirely apparent.

So what?

Against Herbie Hide. Not arguably the best HW in the world, arguably one of the 40 or 50 best ever to have fought at the weight.

No, he doesn't. Vitali has tonnes of experience.

Which is just a fancy way of saying he is out of shape.

As I said, that's arguable. He is in the years of his life that can be considered the best years of an athletes life if that is what you mean.

yes, he was a given age. He also had lots more experience as a pro and had fought ranked contenders. These differences are more important than the fact that Solis is thirty and that's obvious.

You are now comparing Solis to Muhammad Ali. Do you see the problem? We don't treat limited, fat contenders ranked #10 as being the equal in potential of Ali. We consider them unproven.

:deal

 

Shite. When Robinson was asked about his most important learning experience in boxing he talked about the Zivic fight. Moore talked about the Burley fight. "He gave me a boxing education."

If "learning how to box in gym's" is the most important thing, as you claim, 0-0 fighters would be fighting and beating world champions after training and boxing as am's.