Thoughts on the Pacquiao/Marquaz fight

Spot on:yep

I've always been of the mind that pac took a hell of a hammering against margo regardless of the shutout juxtaposed with his outside the ring lifestyle contributions have deterioated Pacquiao & I say this not in hindsight, it was a case of "when & not if" that what happened last night was going to happen.

Yeh you'd think that Mayweather would dissect Canello, but the meters running & the sands are emptying out of the glass.:smoke

 

Great fight with a historic conclusion. If ever there was a full stop to put on the end of the great rivalry, Marquez' right hand was it.

Not sure a 5th fight would be much different, over the four fights Marquez has in my opinion become more and more dominant. I'm not saying Pacquiao is completely done, just that I think this rivalry is. Perhaps Marquez fights Bradley for the lineal welterweight title while Pacquiao takes a lighter-touch comeback to see what he has.

Someone mentioned Mayweather earlier, I thought about this last night too. For me, Mayweather will be looked at in a totally different light to Pacquiao and Marquez. It's almost as if they have lived in separate era's for some reason.

 

Manny's been hit with this shot time & again over the years, it was the 1st knockdown that suprised me, both these punches hit him in the face, he's taken plenty over the years, there's only so much you can take until the roof falls in. I'm not writing manny off, **** happens, it just seems that he felt he had to KO Marquez. I thought he was crazy to go after Marquez in that manner, but saying that he was on the verge of victory, he had Marquez battered & bloodied & i thought he'd get the stoppage in another couple of rounds, but the power of Marquez is the shocker!

 

This forces Mayweather to do nothing, mate. He was already not fighting Pacquiao. He's just going to still not be fighting Pacquiao. If anything, this helps him continue his regularly scheduled programming. He might even fight Marquez again with these nice developments. And Canelo hasn't really done anything that should worry Mayweather, from where I can see. I think he'd be easier than Trout, Cotto or Lara for Mayweather. I don't know how fighting Cotto is cherry-picking and fighting Canelo is picking some tough fight. I figured he was going to try and get Canelo specifically for his Mexican Mayday special anyway.

 

Thats a very good point:good

 

Yeah he'd knocked Juan down with a light punch and busted his face up. I thought he should have known though given the 3rd kd.

 

Marquez: Greatest Mexican boxer of all-time?

Let's keep it classy and not go all General forum, guys.

 

He was a great featherweight and the greatest in recent times in the division.

I since then he's achieved p4p greatness in higher divisions culminating with the ko of a genuine atg.

 

That right hand was a ko punch. It would have koed Pac any time in his career. He stated himself that he never saw the punch. Its these type of blows that turn the lights out.

 

Well in boxing everything can happen right ?
I don't think Manny is the type of idiot that would burn all his money, in fact the man solidified his status in his country outside of boxing so I think he is pretty much safe money wise.

 

I think Floyd was waiting for Pac to deteriorate enough so that he'd time his fight with him nicely. I don't think he was planning to avoid Pacquiao forever.

As for Cotto, at his best he was a very good fighter, and that was about 5 years ago at least.

Canelo is unproven sure, but for mine he poses a bigger threat than re-trad Miguel does.

There's no reason whatsoever for Mayweather-Marquez 2.

 

How did he prove that he was the greatest featherweight in recent times? He didn't face Morales, he barely squeaked by an old Barrera, he got a dubious draw against Pac because of an incompetent judge and then had his hands full with Chris John and Freddie Norwood.

 

I think it was Marquez being more aggressive and being stronger rather than Pacquaio's punch resistance. Marquez was really looking for that KO, the first KD was a complete wide haymaker, the second Manny ran into Hatton style

 

I've still got a throbbing erection.

I've not got a lot of time for fighters who jump up weights just to feast on weaker weightclasses, but with Pac at 140 and 147 it was ok because it was a rather unusual feat for a fighter previously fighting at 126 and 130.still, the large contingent of his fans that felt the need to make out that this was an even more monster badass fighter at those weights was grating and turned me against rooting for a fighter i'd previously liked.

PLeased for Marquez to finally get his win over Manny.

 

Alvarez is bigger, stronger, faster and harder hitting than Cotto. It's a different proposition. Trout is going to do what, outbox Mayweather? Lara is someone who could trouble Mayweather though, although I'm not sure how he does at this level

Well he isn't necessarily a lock for number 1, but:

His resume from FW-SFW is stronger than any other FW in the last 20 years in terms of quality and depth

Morales, MAB and Hamed's management avoided him, not his fault he didn't fight them

Barrera he beat decisively, watch it again, they were both the same age when they fought

Pacquaio he won 9-7 rounds against, yes maybe it should have been a 10-6 in the first, but giving Pacquaio 5 rounds is pretty generous. Also Pacquaio also should have maybe been docked a point for hitting him on the floor. He ends up winning the series (in reality) against Pacquaio, the other top FW of his era

Chris John an undefeated champion who still hasn't lost, he beat clearly, hardly a black mark. The Norwood fight could have gone either way and Norwood was 1 of the best H2H of the era. Compared to Morales gift decision against an old Espadas in their first fight, these aren't too bad.

Every fighter has close controversial fights though, Marquez never really got clearly beaten by anyone his own size, while taking on all comers. which is impressive.