Thoughts on the possible Dubois & Kabayel fight?

I'm harsh broadly, I'll give you that - it probably looks that way especially with guys who get a lot of hype at any given moment, I like to see more proof than most.

You're right up to a point - it's up to managers to make sure their fighters careers don't collapse...

Equally, it should be on orgs to try and make damn sure they do fight each other and penalize guys more harshly for taking pathetic soft touch fights.

For me, someone taking a ludicrously subpar fight should get stripped of a mandatory and either put back to eliminator or made to fight for a place in one...
If I ran an org, my mandatory challenger choosing to fight a domestic level bumfighter like Hysa would lose that mandatory position immediately upon signing it... And so, of course, they'd pick better fights (to make sure of my approval).

 

This.

 

If german channels are correct dubois called out kabayel in london and agit agreed , even agreed to fight him in uk and delaying a fight in germany .

All was fixed until dubois suddenly pulled out .

Rumours say its because usyk-dubois3 is targetted around february 26 and usyk cannot risk dubois to loose ( so similar to the sudden parker fight pullout ) .

as a emergency solution tony yoka is now contracted

Again : its just rumours , we need confirmation

 

Interesting, but it doesn't really add up for me...


If Usyk's willing to make a trilogy with someone he's already beaten very clearly twice already, why would he choose to make it with the guy who brings him the least money (vs making a trilogy fight with AJ or Fury)?

Not saying it's impossible, it just doesn't really add up...

 

Usyk-Dubois III?

If Usyk fought Dubois for a third time I wouldn't even want to watch it. I can't imagine neither Usyk or the fanbase craving that fight.

 

I hope it happens I am all for the top guys in the division fighting each other.

 

Dubois had a real issue with Usyk's pressure, both times. Kabayel is likely to stick to him like glue as he did to Zhang, thudding away. And Kabayel is a mean ****er in the ring, zero confidence issues, real focused.

I think Dubois is the one in for a rough night. I rate Kabayel highly.

But dear god, the buildup to the fight is going to be a snooze. All Dubios can do is wait for someone to tell him what to do, then he robotically does it. And Kabayel couldn't sell ***** to a virgin waiting in line at a whorehouse (I'm a fan, but self promotion ain't his thing).

 

This is exactly the kind of fight Kabayel needs to take.

 

Honestly , i also do not know .

The only ( not officially confirmed ) fact seems to be that kabayel-dubois is off due to dubois pulling out suddenly . The usyk-dubois3 planning is currently just wild rumours .

If true the simple reason might be that usyk can negotiate with dubois very easy and dubois is no threat in the ring to usyk .

When we talk money ... i think usyk is incredibly rich , more than he can ever spend up to a point money in current stage is just a number for him ...
Maybe an easy night with zero risk is more important than the purse for him ?

We have to wait if usyk-dubois3 is indeed planned .

 

Both agreed to fight, now we'll see what happens next...

 

They want to get Kabayel out of the way like they did to Parker just to get closer to Big Money fights...

 

Why are you making stuff up? There are no plans of Usyk vs Dubois III and there was no Kabayel vs Dubois fight scheduled that Dubois could pull out of. Kabayel is likely to fight Tony Yoka.

 

It's all pretty much just rumours - not sure the word "fact" belongs here?

Hmm... It seems unlikely - Usyk isn't someone who avoids challenges, typically, so the idea he'd target Dubois for an easy night doesn't really sit right (especially when he's still in the debate as one of the hardest potential opponents available right now).

Doesn't make sense to me - if money isn't an issue and there's no interest in challenge then why not simply retire? Or do an exhibition with Wlad or something else novel?

I'd be amazed, it just doesn't make sense from any angle that I can see.

 

I don't think it matters if it's a good move for dubois. Say what you will, but dubois is very good and very willing to fight anyone. The deciding factor for me is what does frank warren want. He also promotes kabayel. Noone wants to see dubois against usyk again. But dubois vs kabayel is very interesting and can totally be sold to the public. In both germany and england. And since probably kabayel wins, you can build the narrative of usyk vs kabayel on the basis they both beat dubois. So it might be a fight to build a profile for kabayel?

Now wardley all of a sudden jumped in front of kabayel? Not in my book. Parker was poor and I have been arguing for a while now, that Parker is not better than kabayel and would be beaten by him. Which I also very clearly assume for wardley. Punchers lose against technical fighters on a similar level.

Agreed, that kabayel is more defensive in his career planning. But he stands to win a lot of recognition and it might be his entry into the money area and his way to get better fights. If he wants to fight usyk he needs something like that. On the other hand maybe he doesn't need the money and is just aiming for holding a world title one day. Then he might swerve every credible opponent until he gets a shot at the title, preferrably when usyk is gone.

Usyk dubois 3 as usyks next fight is utter idiocy. Who is going to pay for that? Usyk was overwhelming dubois and there is no narrative that says it might go another way in their next fight without any new fights to indicate that dubois has somehow developed. No way is that usyk's next fight. It would probably look worse than chisora as an opponent.

If it's from german boxing news outlets (can you tell me which?) it is probably just a narrative they try to spin. It's unbelievable to the point that I assume it is misinformation on purpose - maybe to justify yoka as an opponent?

 

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In the meantime also kabayel,s promoter speaks about it but leaves it to queensberry for official confirmation ,unfortunetly in german . So the agreement with dubois and his sudden pullout seems to be more than just rumours .