Thoughts on Vergil?

Crawford was hurt and down vs Kavaliauskas you donut.

 

No kidding dummy. I'm saying that Crawford is much better and more dangerous then EK is, if he gets hurt like that against Crawford he's done.

 

Lol. Yea but, it’s worse when you actually don’t go down because it looks bad to judges. Something something nonsense about why Crawford did better plus he wiped out 140 24 years ago.

 

And common sense dictates, by the exact same logic, that the opposite is also true.

 

Not sure about that. Spence is becoming like Kell Brook; damaged goods. Bud has been sitting on his ass counting his $$$, playing Xbox and getting fat for 9 months. Every month that passes makes Ortiz more dangerous to Bud.

At this point I'll take Ortiz over Spence (55/45 and growing) at the next opportunity and Bud over Ortiz (65/35 and shrinking). Bud should take a page from Floyd vs Canelo and fight Ortiz next. Either that or have a rematch clause and maybe we get the epic trilogy FTW.

 

No it's not, Crawford is more proven than Ortiz. He's a proven top 3 P4P fighter. There are still alot of question marks about Ortiz than with Crawford.

 

From a legacy standpoint, there's no point Crawford fighting Ortiz now. Let Ortiz build up his name fighting progressively better opponents and then fight him when it actually brings you something. If Crawford fights Ortiz now and knocks him out in 9 rounds, the win will mean nothing on his resume. People will just say he beat a guy who never went past 8 rounds.

 

Crawford had a choice. He could have won any way he liked, but he was less fearful of Kavaliauskas' power than Ortiz and decided to come forward. I was more impressed by Crawford's performance because of it. That's not to say Ortiz can't give Crawford some problems, but again, I don't see Ortiz winning.

 

That's precisely my problem with Kavaliauskas. He's just too thick and muscular. Aesthetically it looks good but he has had perpetual work rate issues because of it. He could have been significantly more effective against both Crawford and especially Ortiz if he managed his physique. His power punch output against Ortiz was awful.

 

people need to see the progression of this kid as hes worked his way through the division. learning from each step and each fight. polishing the many outstanding weapons he already has and always incorporating new ones. he is like canelo and spence in that type of ethic. striving to improve, constantly.
this fight was what he needed to be considered a threat to everyone at 147. this was his kavaliauskas moment. and he did what an elite would do. took the bump well, adjusted, and proceeded to finish the job he had started. when bud foughts kavs, it wasnt his elite moment, he already had that in various other fights, he had plenty of experience with elite moments. this was vergils first. but now its in the computer, he knows he belongs with the crawfords and spences of the sport. after the fights his opponents recognize him as the monster he is. its his time, hes ready for bud. and if he should lose, then that will be his final lesson, before going undefeated for the next 5 years.
crawford vs ortiz at at&t stadium before a crowd of 60k fans from the midwest and texas. arum doesnt even have to sell it. the internet will build it into the fight of the year way before fight night.

 

Crawford is a slow starter. He always takes the first few rounds to loosen up and to figure out his opponents weaknesses. He's always willing to sacrifice 3-4 rounds. Then go goes on to do him.

 

Crawford during all his life had best opponent in Mean Machine. No one else was at this level while ppl are thinking that Machine is just nobody, he is best boxer Terence ever in his life had in the ring.

Ortiz is good lad with potential to improve his game, correct mistakes and even gain more power as mature adult, there is time some years 2 and then.
He might KO Crawford out cold without much doubts.
Terence is very good real elite boxer but he had dealt with Machine only cos his S/C advantage and this there was all nothing more.
Improved Ortiz might KO him senseless and Crawford is heavily overrated just because he being beautiful elite boxer after had stepped up in weight class had fought no one from real top 5.

Improved Ortiz Jr after 2 years will KTFO him out completely cold, no one will help him if Ortiz will continue to improve.
Ol Bob should smell this. Maybe he will push up earlier to get Terence next win and save his holy 0.

 

He was buzzed but I would argue against him being knocked down every time.

 

When his team decides it's time this kid whips everybodies ass for the next 10 years, until the next Oritz type talent comes along with the combo of speed power & technique.

 

Even today it is big question will Crawford last till judges card vs Ortiz Jr.
After some 2 years looks that Crawford will have 0 chances last till cards. Vergil even today is better, more skilled and damn more powerful than Machine version Crawford had in the ring.