Thoughts on Wilder

Well, I think he did pretty much exactly that with Stiverne. In the second fight anyway. I don't remember the first fight at this point.

 

I don't think he gives rounds away. I certainly think he was trying to outbox Ortiz at range but couldn't work him out. I think Ortiz pawing at his jab with own and moving to Wilder's left made him hesitant to throw and the occasional counter left him a bit unsure of himself. He got to Ortiz in the 5th, big time. He got more confident and got a little reckless and was made to pay for it big time. Ortiz slowed down and didn't recover; Wilder was able to recover because he's a very good athlete.

He is what he is. He is not a cerebral boxer or a technician. He is an explosive puncher with dynamite in his hands and he also has a very good killer instinct (which is an underrated quality).

 

Yeah Im just not so sure about this new theory that Wilder gives rounds away. He never gave any rounds away at all against Stiverne part 2 as the first round wasnt even completed, let alone waited out by Wilder.

Some credit should go to Ortiz for outboxing him and forcing him into this new theory that 'Wilder likes to wait'.

 

I'm saying Wilder will give away rounds to go for the KO. That's not at all "Wilder likes to wait" and I have no idea where you're getting that from.

Are you saying a first round KO is inconsistent with Wilder prioritizing KOs?

 

I don't believe Wilder willingly gives rounds up. No fighter does that and just looks for the KO, everyone is taught to let the KO come, not abandon all technique and semblance of boxing and just go for the KO.

I'm sure if Wilder could win rounds and then go onto KO his opponent that would be the preferred choice but it's clear his lack of boxing ability forces him to fall back and rely on his power to bail him out, which it has now against Szpilka, Washington and Ortiz.

 

Isnt giving away rounds the same as waiting for that KO oppertunity? He has 12 rounds to do it. Hes not waiting though but he has 12 rounds to do it??

 

The issue is that you're arguing that a first round KO is inconsistent with prioritizing KOs.

Wilder focuses on KOs. Whenever they come. Early or late.

I don't know how to make this clearer. It's fine if you disagree with this idea, but your logic is ****ing ******ed and I've concluded that you are as well.

 

I think this new theory that Wilder likes to give away rounds (like he really has control of that and no credit should go to his opponent) is just 'slapped on' in light of how Wilder won a tough very close fight with Ortiz. Most of the people that are saying this is Wilders strategy never spoke of this strategy before and thats what leads me to think that the theory/strategy has just been 'slapped on'. Im a bit skeptic about it all to be honest but hey, it could very well be. Wilder just might come out saying exactly that. Who knows.

 

There would be no shame in losing rounds to Ortiz. But Wilder was losing rounds to the likes of Washington who is, and I'm sorry to say this, terrible.

 

LOL anger is a sign of defeat. Calm down there buddy youre showing youre defeated.

Im just saying that his strategy of 'giving away rounds' isnt what happened with Stiverne. Pure and simple and thats the truth.

 

Again. You're arguing that a first round KO is inconsistent with prioritizing KOs.

You're completely ****ing ******ed.

 

Im not the one with the logic or strategy here. Your new found one is what were discussing. I dont think Wilder gives away rounds. Thats all.

 

Im not arguing at all lol. Look youre the one thats angry lol.

 

He gives away rounds because he prioritizes KOs.

Your argument against this idea is a first round KO.

Amazing.

 

@covetousjuice

You're new found strategy where 'Wilder gives away rounds' isnt what happened against Stiverne? True or false?

Thats all Im saying lol. No need for anger or insults.