1. Which was more of a robbery Ramirez 1 or vs. Chavez 2. Which was his more impressive performace.. Nelson, Ramirez, Greg H., Vasquez, McGirt, Chavez or another fight 3. If you were to rank Nelson, Ramirez, Vaquez and McGirt.. how would you rank them as far as their career
If I was ranking his opposition from a P4P sense of the word I would go with nelson off of the list given...If you mean who do I rank as a better opponent, I might make nelson the lowest of those listed. He was clearly primed at FW and a solid SFW as well, bit LW did not look good on him. Pea didn't even need to make Nelson look slow and lumbering as nelson did that himself. So nelson is the nicer looking scalp, but not as significant as it might appear.
Not at all. I'll rescore it in a few days. JCV was the boss in that fight and landed more of consequence. We'll see if I still feel that way.
You won't... I think you were drunk or hungover that night and didn't have all your faculties... either that or you were a pea hater back in the day. People could say Ramirez.. chavez... nelson... or DLH landed the harder blows... doesn't mean pea didn't box their ears off (sans DLH for some)
Please to note that after the 10th round Gil Clancy and Ronnie Shields had the fight dead even, so it was hardly the lopsided victory some would claim. Vasquez was doing very good work to the body. Whitaker was good with movement and the jab but was still getting caught, got KD'd. He really didn't seem to wear the weight well. The script was in on this one beginning with the promotions. It was Pernell's inauguration as a great, winning another weight class, which would hopefully increase his PPV appeal. Unfortunately, his foil had not read the script and made a very good fight of it.
He did make a good fight of it... but Pea still landed considerably more and at a way higher percentage... you add in the point deductions... and it was a clear victory for Pea imo.
Versus Chavez imo. Whitaker did get roughed up pretty good towards the end of the Ramirez fight, whereas he was pretty much in total control against Chavez bar a few rounds. Whilst the first 4 or 5 rounds against Ramirez were more one-sided than any rounds against Chavez, there is simply less of an argument that Chavez won more rounds than Ramirez did imo. Ramirez II, Haugen and Nelson were all masterclasses. 1. Nelson 2. Ramirez/McGirt 3. Vasquez
The Vasquez-Whitaker fight was pretty close if you exclude the point deductions. 2 point deductions was pretty excessive. Should have been one tops. Can't see any argument for Vasquez winning if you dock 2 points...
1. Ramirez 1 2. Impossible to say, depends on preference, flip a coin between Haugen, Ramirez 2, Nelson & Mcgirt 2.... other classic performances on a similar level were Pineda, Cardona & of course Chavez when taking quality of opposition on board. 3. Tough one... possibly..... Nelson Mcgirt Ramirez Vasquez
1. Haven't seen Whitaker vs Chavez yet but if anything Whitaker getting d decision over Ramirez in their rematch was more of a robbery than Ramirez getting d decision in their 1st fight or in other words : Whitaker never beat Ramirez despite being 6 yrs younger and fighting Ramirez past Ramirez' prime . 2. only watched his 2 fights against Ramirez so far and was not impressed by Whitaker . 3. 1) Ramirez 2). Whitaker 3). Nelson 4) McGirt However Nelson & Whitaker r close and may b swapped . Whitaker & Ramirez might b swapped as well , on a whole career basis , but not on h2h while prime ability . Vaquez ? who ? u probably don't mean Wilfredo Vasquez , do u ? what does he have 2 do in this ranking ? I rank Camacho & LaPorte higher than Whitaker anyway , and higher than Ramirez as well , despite i m not totally sure about d latter . edit : u probably meant Julio Cesar Vasquez , in this case i rank him clearly below those u mentioned , except maybe McGirt on a p4p basis , but above all of them on a h2h basis obviously .
Am I suppose to take this post seriously... You honestly feel like Whitaker NEVER beat Ramirez in any of their fights? Plus you rate Ramirez higher than Whitaker all time... I kinda feel like I'm being trolled here...