Thrilla in Manila - Did Ali ask his corner to cut his gloves off?

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For what though, someone else to take him in the ring. Dundee said he stuck around because he wanted to be there for him.
     
  2. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Had Dundee exited with Pacheco it would have gotten Ali's attention more and got him thinking about it earlier. Ali had nobody to tell him no in his camp. Angelo didnt protect him anyway. He had no power to even stop the fight without running for his life.
     
  3. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    If you watch the post presser just look at Ali's. face. He had a few bruises but his eyes looked like he just saw Leon Spinks while walking through the woods at night. He went on to praise Frazier he a way he never had before.
     
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  4. Tramell

    Tramell The Ideological Slayer: I Slay Ideology! Full Member

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    I remember a docu as well. I 4get the dude who said he was trying to get Frazier's attention & let him know Ali is done- as stated here, Frazier's trainer broke his heart he wanted to go out on his shield. Can't blame him the way Ali talked about him.
     
  5. LoadedGlove

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    I wouldn't disbelieve anything about that fight. In his book, " The Greatest " Ali describes being in the near room to death. He said he knew he was borrowing energy from the future which is incredibly prescient given what was to happen to him later in life.
    In the book, Ali claims he asked Angelo Dundee to cut the gloves off and that rather than arguing, Angelo told him to wait as he thought Frazier's corner was going to pull him out. Angelo has always denied this. Ferdie Paccheco has referred to the incident without confirming or denying it but always said Ali would have answered the bell if he had to.
    Looking at Ali at the end of the fight, he was beyond empty. It's hard to be sure but I can't imagine Ali would simply have sat on his stool and watched Joe come out for the last round.
    Neither man should have been allowed to fight again after that night.
     
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  6. LoadedGlove

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    Willie " The Worm " Monroe, a Middleweight contender in Frazier's stable and a close friend of Joe's.
     


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