throwing decent hooks

I struggle with a lead hook. I tend to get off balance which leads to me being exposed if i miss. If i get inside with a jab or straight right, close the distance then hook it is far more effective, and it can combo up nicely

 

You can drive thru stop signs on remote roads for a while, as long as you get away with it. No cars, no police.

Try it on a busier intersection, and bam...

You can get away with lead hooks against inexperienced fighters and bums, but do it against real good fighters and you're done.

If you watch enough fights and see enough fighters get cold-cocked after attempting lead hooks, you tend not to teach that to your fighters.

 

I very much like the words being talked here. Im new to this forum,and have retired from Boxing as a fighter and now train a few lads from around the neighborhood.

I tend to agree with Boxbible when it comes to the old adage of never leading with a Hook....or a right cross for that matter... Unless its set up with a feint of course, and then you must have been throwing a real shot-say the jab for instance to establish a pattern to set the feint up with.

I was a wild self taught boxer to begin with. My very first fight was a Pro fight and i used a lead left hook to KO my opponent in the 3rd round. I threw that shot after i saw that my opponent was flat footed and had stopped bouncing around....i presumed he was getting a little tired and i dipped to my left and measured the distance and trajectory i wanted the hook to take,but never threw a shot. I did it again and this time i threw a left hook and game over.

There is also a beleif that one should never lead with a right cross as well. It can be done ofcourse! but you must be smart and pick your moment carefully......a jab will find your chin before your cross gets halfway there otherwise.

I think its best to set up your hooks and crosses or whatever it is that you want to land with a feint.

Never lead with a hook from outside the range because it will be spotted long before the punch is launched.

 

your a pro fighter whats you record who you fought

i think leading with a right hand can be really effective but you have to time it perfect, i do it to catch opponents off guard. Im not trying to sound cocky but i have just been naturally good at throwing a right lead i jsut know when to do it same with a left hook lead. although i dont use a left hook lead alot.

I normally measure with my jab working off a half step system then get in range and land the right

 

Patterson and frazier had good lead hooks

 

they tended to throw them as they slipped a jab

i think a good example of leading with a left hook is RJJ

 

i think leading with a right hand can be really effective but you have to time it perfect, i do it to catch opponents off guard. Im not trying to sound cocky but i have just been naturally good at throwing a right lead i jsut know when to do it same with a left hook lead. although i dont use a left hook lead alot.

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The thing is exactly as you said....you know when to throw it. I think most fighters lead with hooks and right crosses on the odd occasion-

Frazier lead with hooks because his non stop bobbing weaving meant he was throwing stuff on the move and his style was very effective to a certain point because of it .....i loved that guys attitude!

 

Very good point. There is a difference between leading with a hook and countering with hook.

I have been having some success while training my boys to throw a half decent left hook lately.Seems important to make sure the return of the hip and hand happen as quickly as possible once the shot has landed.Tends to stop them sticking the punch at the point of impact and stops them from overdoing the hip/shoulder rotation at the same time .Make any sense? atsch

 

kinda your meaning not to follow through witht the punch

countering with a left hook is a brillaint move just watch tyson he is the master at it.

 

yes thats what i was meaning:good thanx for that.

 

no probs mate

are you training amatuers at the moment

so said you was a pro did you get far figh any decent guys

 

I train Pro fighters but have none at the moment.Just a couple of people i train and not worth mentioning really.

No I never fought anypone of any great repute internationally. Maybe Maselino Masoe was my biggest fights but i got stopped in third round:verysad

I had 40 pro fites and won only about 15 or so.Mostly self taught and managed but i loved the game and took on anybody put in front of me. I started my"career when i was 30 and never had any amateur experience whatsoever. No excuses i just lost to better fighters thats all.

 

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yeah it makes sense, my coach was explaining the same thing to me, get straight back into position ater landing the hook. This is while hitting pads, i do the same with the right, i sort of leave my punches hanging for a second or 2 after i hit the pad. That made perfect sense to me.

 

I tell my boys that a punch is not a full punch until it has returned to where you threw it from. If you stick your punches (leave them hanging out there so to speak) then you are creating a habit,and that habit affects every other punch that is supposed to roll off the production line afterwards.The faster you get back to where you started the punch from,the sooner you can fire off another decent shot. Working on the speed of the recoil seems to have a positive effect when it comes to the speed and timing of the next shot.Just my two cents worth as i have been noticing a lot lately. Proper trainers may have a better way of saying it,so dont take it as gospel,but try it out and see if it helps at all mate.

 

Okay, everyone, I'm orthodox. I was always taught to pivot the left foot. which turned the knee and hips into the punch. I happened to come across a Joe Frazier written book and he said to pivot the right foot toward the left. Also, keep the left foot planted, but do try to turn the knee in. Now, I've tried this, but have yet to try it at the gym.

What are your thoughts?