Throwing Elbows: The Filthy Unabridged Tale Of The Cephalopodic Billy Goat AKA The Son Of God.

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  1. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward is/has been a roughhouse fighter his entire pro career. Even his pro debut was a foul fest.

    Where he excels is how he positions himself to disguise his tactics from the referee. He's what I call an intelligent brawler in the ring. One of his often used tactics is the elbow. He not only throws it but he also leans on fighters with his elbows in clinches and moves it only fractionally around the brow, bridge and eyes.

    Ward knows the game. He knows blatant fouls won't always work. He's a bit like Roberto Duran. He's an artistic dirty fighter. The only way that type of fighting will ever be truly dealt with is if Boxing, like Baseball and Football incorporates video into their sport.
     
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  2. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    What about Ward constantly diving in headfirst? Or his lethal knee strike?

    Have you not watched the videos of how dirty Ward is?

    He's a dirty piece of fake religious dog meat

    You like him so you make excuses for his cheating. Not like you mate

    Calzaghe would have schooled him, Kovalev will knock him out within 5
     
  3. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You are not into partisan double standards........Since when?
     
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  4. Str8ryte

    Str8ryte Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So much estrogen in this thread. What a bunch of phaggots.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I have a feeling if Kovalev viciously elbows and headbutts Ward, then takes advantage of those two fouls now that Ward is loopy and brutally KO's him, you'll be the one on here crying like a f*****. Waahhh Kovalev cheated, Kovalev cheated.

    I bet you think you're unbiased and fair and balanced like Bogotazo too don't you?:lol:
     
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  6. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I bet anything that idiot was crying like a ****** during Maidonna v.s Floyd 1.

    "Bu.. Bu.. But Maidonna cheating doe!!!"
     
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  7. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Just like Porter, it's part of his style. They're not intentional butts but they do cause a lot of fouls, so you could say he's reckless but not dirty. Dirty is committing repeated blatant fouls. I haven't seen them.

    There's also nothing fake about Ward, he's pretty consistent and more professional than most fighters.

    Calzaghe definitely would not have beaten him. Much less "schooled" him, Ward has shown the much greater ring IQ over his career.
     
  8. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Feel free to present evidence to the contrary. I don't typically hate on any fighter.
     
  9. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    "Dirty is committing repeated blatant fouls. I haven't seen them."

    Then i suggest watching the aforementioned videos. Ward is dirty *******, no two ways about it

    And yeah, Calzaghe would have beaten the hell out of the guy. No one has shown a "much greater" ring IQ than Joe. Joe figured absolutely everyone he fought out. Prime Hopkins, prime Kessler, and he never needed to cheat to do it

    This time Andre's bought the ref, the judges and all else. But there's a reason many still think he's still getting knocked out. He's no Calzaghe
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You show your biases like this.

    "Calzaghe definitely would not have beaten him. Much less "schooled" him, Ward has shown the much greater ring IQ over his career."

    No fair and balanced unbiased or sane fight fan would say something like that, it would be every bit as close as Kovalev-Ward, with Calzaghe possessing quite a few more intangibles than even Sergey brought to the table. Stylistically Joe would be a potential nightmare for Ward. Joe's ability to adjust was every bit as brilliant as Ward, if not more so.
     
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  11. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    You can't call me biased for favoring a skilled fighter in a hypothetical. You can't prove that I'm off base because they never fought. I never said the fight wouldn't be competitive, but Calzaghe isn't "schooling" Ward. I tend to think Calzaghe is overrated but that's just an opinion, an assessment, not a bias, I have nothing personal against him. I think Ward beats him in a competitive fight on cleaner punching.

    What I've seen in the video (I didn't watch all of it because I have better things to do with my time) are things that I've seen many other fighters do. The Kessler headbutts were pretty bad, but I blame the ref. If Ward is used to bulling forward with his head on the inside like Porter and Holyfield and a referee doesn't call him out, then it means the culture of norms in the sport tolerates it.

    No, slappy Calzaghe who got dropped by and scraped by old Hopkins is not beating the hell out of a prime Ward. Calzaghe is easier to hit than Ward is, and Ward sets up his punches smarter and more accurately. (In my opinion of course.)
     
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  12. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Its not a long video. You didnt watch it because you didnt like what it revealed. I'll fill you in. It revealed Ward is a bigger cheat than you want to know

    What is old Hopkins? Hopkins went on to dominate for ten years after his first KO loss - sorry 5 minute time out - at the hands of "slappy" Joe

    Just imagine what Joe would have done could he still punch properly

    Hopkins gave Joe fits for the first few rounds until Joe figured, re-figured and re-figured him out again. Do you think Ward has a higher ring IQ than Hopkins? It's possible, but Joe's already proven he has

    Out of curiosity - how do you see Ward Beterbiev going?
     
  13. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    when joe could still "punch properly" Hopkins was in his prime, and along with roy jones, we both know how comfortable Calzaghe was staying half a world away during their primes....

    your posts seem to have a common thread - you're very anti-US and pro-Europe
    if true, that's a very small-minded approach
     
  14. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Look at my avatar Einstein
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    It's not SOG, it's SOB, he is a cheating criminal.............
     
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