Thurman doesn't want Spence anytime soon

Serge · Oct 14, 2017

yesihavearm2 said: ↑

I don't want to see this next either.

Thurman's coming off major elbow surgery and has had a hard run of fights. Let him have a tune-up and let's see the best venison of both fighters face off in the summer.
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Spence is tryna gain himself a reputation as a cripple crusher ala Melon Head Miguel.

jmashyaka · Oct 14, 2017

Serge said: ↑

From February

Anything else Serge said during the lead up to the fight was just him in jokey mode (like he do), some call it trolling but from the conversations I've had with Serge it's clear to me he considers it more fun 'n games and forum banter

Evidentally my concerns about Brock being weight drained were well founded. The beating GGG gave him and the eye injury clearly took their toll on him too. Spence is aight but he ain't got no D and we ain't see him in there with a slick fighter yet. Brock was definitely damaged goods and like I said C level Algieri is a blown up 140 pounder non puncher. Algieri's tactics in that one were bizarre to say the least, John David Jackass had him believing he was a puncher lol.
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Okay fair enough if you thought it was 50-50 I misquoted you.

Spences defence aint the best but that tends to be the case with most pressure fighters ala GGG, Gonzalez etc. Spences defence is adequate because he knows his offence is destructive.

Dagnaldinho · Oct 14, 2017

jmashyaka said: ↑

He's not top 10 p4p yet, anyone saying that is jumping the gun, however the top guys like Garcia, Porter, Thurman don't seem to wanna get in there with him so we can see if he what I think he is which is the number 1 WW.
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There was a thread of peoples Top 10 P4P list, Spence was named in a few posts i just dont get what hes done to merit a place in their top 10s is what i was saying, Brook is his best win, 1 world title fight, Thurman is the only one who makes it from the 147lb division. As for not being able to get a fight against these top guys. Kell Brook was in that position for a while, Eddie Hearn was trying to get all these big names, but Brook stayed active and defended against average fighters till he got his big fights.

Spence should just focus on defending his belt a few times instead of rushing into these unification fights. Stay active till your chance comes is what i say.

jmashyaka · Oct 14, 2017

Dagnaldinho said: ↑

There was a thread of peoples Top 10 P4P list, Spence was named in a few posts i just dont get what hes done to merit a place in their top 10s is what i was saying, Brook is his best win, 1 world title fight, Thurman is the only one who makes it from the 147lb division. As for not being able to get a fight against these top guys. Kell Brook was in that position for a while, Eddie Hearn was trying to get all these big names, but Brook stayed active and defended against average fighters till he got his big fights.

Spence should just focus on defending his belt a few times instead of rushing into these unification fights. Stay active till your chance comes is what i say.
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I would put Thurman above Spence off the resume, the only way I would pick Spence is if it's off the eye test. I don't think anyone could pick Spence over Thurman on resume alone but after Thurman, Spence has the best resume.

Brook fought absolute no one at welterweight except Porter for the belt and Spence as a mandatory, he never took any tough voluntary nor did he really push for a unification and even backed out of the Vargas deal because of money.

I'm happy with what Spence is tryna do, he is tryna be the number 1 guy and if he thinks he is ready for the fight then who am I to say no.

Manfred · Oct 14, 2017

Serge said: ↑

Spence gets hit. He's doing what he's supposed to do but I don't see nothing special there. He's straight up 'n down, no special effects. He ain't got no D and he needs to fight a slick fighter to prove he's legit. He ain't beat no one. Kell Brock was badly drained after having to come back down in weight and he was coming off a loss and a very serious injury and surgery. The only other fighter he beat is Algieri who is a blown up 140 pounder who couldn't even crack an egg down at 140, let alone up at 147 against big, strong welterweights like Spence and co. Shot Pacquiao bounced Algieri up and down off the canvas about 20 times times. Spence is a killer because he beat GGG and Manny's leftovers?? Give me a break! Thurman way to slick for that hype. Easy work.
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Why you making excuses for Kell Brook? He has nothing to be defended for. He fought a good fight but he lost and that's the bottom line. He was in good shape and he wasn't weight drained.

jmashyaka · Oct 14, 2017

Manfred said: ↑

Why you making excuses for Kell Brook? He has nothing to be defended for. He fought a good fight but he lost and that's the bottom line. He was in good shape and he wasn't weight drained.
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Yeah he wasn't and Spence broke the other orbital bone so I don't wanna hear the excuse about GGG beating.

Serge · Oct 14, 2017

Manfred said: ↑

Why you making excuses for Kell Brook? He has nothing to be defended for. He fought a good fight but he lost and that's the bottom line. He was in good shape and he wasn't weight drained.
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Do you even got a brains?

From a GRJ vs Mikey Garcia thread from Feb 2012

One poster said ''GRJ will tap that ass''

Manfred's response

Manfred said: ↑

and Mikey knows it.
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On a Mikey Garcia invites Gamboa to come get sum thread from 2013

One poster said

''Mikey Garcia will get his toughest test's at north of 130, he is young... just 25 and can still fil in and has the power to move up.. he is gonna be the closest thing possible to a JMM reincarnation for me

He won't get truly tested till he takes on bigger guys, his skills and power at 126 is to much for anyone to handle right now at 126''

Manfred replied to it with this

Manfred said: ↑

Ain't Gary Russell Jr. at 126?:huh
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On a Whose next for Mikey thread from 2013

Manfred said: ↑

Like I said, GARY RUSSELL JR IS AT 126, WHAT THE **** IS UP WITH THAT?. Don't act like he is not qualified because we know better than that. If Mikey moves up then I ain't got no hate fkor that but when I read people talking about 126 is dead and ain't no fights to be made, well that's just dissing Gary and that's some bull****.:bbb
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GRJ vs Abner Mares thread 2013

One poster said

''Russell Jr. will beat the **** out of Mares right now''

Manfred's response

Manfred said: ↑

You got that right. will beat the brakes off his ass.:yep
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Manfred said: ↑

Mares ain't got no real skills, he a rough and tumble with a lot of heart and grit. However skills pay the bills and Russell has skills up the yang yang. He also has speed and power. If you wanna see a real ass whoopin, put Mares in with Russell and your wish will be granted.:bbb
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2013

Manfred said: ↑

****, that's wishful thinking. They avoiding GR like the plauge, pretending like he's not ready.:scaredas:
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Manfred said: ↑

Russell has fought more pros than Lomanchenko and I believe he would have knocked both Salido and Lomo's asses out.
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Loma vs GRJ thread 2014

Manfred said: ↑

If he fights Russell, that will be his second loss.
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Manfred said: ↑

He can't learn **** from Salido that will help him with Russell. Two totally different animals.:bbb
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Another Loma vs GRJ thread

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Knowing how Bob Arums funky ass works, it won't be Russell. He will do that Pac thang and put him in there with some easy money and hype it up. If that's the case then Russell is certainly the wrong fighter cause all Russell is bringing is a serious ass whooping and old Bob knows it. Pac is vacant title king.
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Manfred said: ↑

Russell is ready, all this talk about who he hasn't fought is irrelevant. His skillset is evident and what I see, it on par with Lomachenko and his speed and pop will carry the day for him in the fight.
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After Loma paddled GRJ's ass

Manfred said: ↑

I think that Luft knows that and is referring to the Russell now and he is a different fighter mentally. I would love to see him and Loma again. As for Loma and Walters, that's a 50/50 fight. While Loma has the technique, Walters has the power and the dog in him and that uppercut could spell doom for the Lama man. If Loma can keep him honest then I give the edge to him.
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Manfred said: ↑

When he comes for Loma's ass, Loma will be clean in another division. Loma is on notice, he caught Russell at the right time. Russell was still green and Martinez was just waiting for somebody to knock his no talent ass out. The only dog he's been in there with is Salido and Salido don't have the precision, movement or power of Davis. Russell is ready for his ass now but he ain't looking back. He moving through these divisions picking off the weak. You can only do that for so long.
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2016

Manfred said: ↑

If they don't know, they will know. Mr. Russell is about to tear some ass up. It's come to Jesus time and mercy is not in his vocabulary. He wants Loma like Joe Louis wanted Schmeling. I can't wait.
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2017

Manfred said: ↑

No offense taken but I beg to differ. Regardless of how Loma starts, when he does start it's the same strategy and the same moves. His style worked fine in all his fights except the Salido fight. Instead of making adjustments, he just gutted it out and it costed him. How much figuring did it take for Sosa, Rocky, or even Russell who was really a novice when you compare his experience against Loma's. Loma is blessed with two attributes. His speed and his stamina. His ability to adjust his style or reconfigure his punch selection has yet to be seen.
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Manfred · Oct 14, 2017

Serge said: ↑

Do you even got a brains?

From a GRJ vs Mikey Garcia thread from Feb 2012

One poster said ''GRJ will tap that ass''

Manfred's response

On a Mikey Garcia invites Gamboa to come get sum thread from 2013

One poster said

''Mikey Garcia will get his toughest test's at north of 130, he is young... just 25 and can still fil in and has the power to move up.. he is gonna be the closest thing possible to a JMM reincarnation for me

Come on man with that BS. I can go into your history and pull up the same type of posts. I am just not that anal. What you trying to prove, that you stuck on stupid? Deal with what I posted today or keep it moving.
He won't get truly tested till he takes on bigger guys, his skills and power at 126 is to much for anyone to handle right now at 126''

Manfred replied to it with this

On a Whose next for Mikey thread from 2013

GRJ vs Abner Mares thread 2013

One poster said

''Russell Jr. will beat the **** out of Mares right now''

Manfred's response

2013

Loma vs GRJ thread 2014

Another Loma vs GRJ thread

After Loma paddled GRJ's ass

2016

2017
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Serge said: ↑

Do you even got a brains?

From a GRJ vs Mikey Garcia thread from Feb 2012

One poster said ''GRJ will tap that ass''

Manfred's response

On a Mikey Garcia invites Gamboa to come get sum thread from 2013

One poster said

''Mikey Garcia will get his toughest test's at north of 130, he is young... just 25 and can still fil in and has the power to move up.. he is gonna be the closest thing possible to a JMM reincarnation for me

He won't get truly tested till he takes on bigger guys, his skills and power at 126 is to much for anyone to handle right now at 126''

Manfred replied to it with this

On a Whose next for Mikey thread from 2013

GRJ vs Abner Mares thread 2013

One poster said

''Russell Jr. will beat the **** out of Mares right now''

Manfred's response

2013

Loma vs GRJ thread 2014

Another Loma vs GRJ thread

After Loma paddled GRJ's ass

2016

2017
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