Thurman: Pacquiao Is A Lightweight—I Want To Trade w/ Him (!)

They both will be probably be on something dummy. No VADA they're dirty atleast according to you right? You have said this numerous times. Don't change the narrative now you POS.

 

You always bash Pac yet ignore the fact that Mayweather was caught with a VADA violation. Then, got a "TUE" which is essentially a bought and paid for excuse.

 

PBF used USADA not VADA. Pac isn't using either for this fight he will be juiced. I expect him to look shreaded at the weigh in and throw 100 punches a round in this fight at 40. He will look like 2010 all over again in 2019. LMFAO!

 

You're the only racist here ****boi why don't you like Haney and Shakur Stevenson? Oh you said you didn't like they way they looked. You racist POS. You're the one here who has a long history of bashing black fighters never rooting for them and never giving them credit when they win.
In your own words if a fighter doesn't use VADA then they're juicing Pac didn't do VADA testing for Lucas nor is he doing it for this fight. He's juiced by your own logic. When he's throwing 100 punches a round and looking like the Pac of 2010 ten years later in 2019 at 40 we will know what time it is. BTW since Pac will be juiced Thurman will probably be as well after all it's only fair. I hope for your sake Pac wins because if he doesn't you will have to check yourself into a mental institution where you rightfully belong. I expect 100 threads by you after the fight you damn obsessed loon.

 

Pac never random blood tested during his run, his whole career is suspect to me. He kept his same speed workrate and power while moving up in weight. He made every excuse in the book as why he couldn't do random blood testing. I'm afraid of needles despite having a tattoo giving blood makes me weak. When he finally tested and got off those Ariza shakes he looked like ****. He got KTFO by JMM schooled by PBF and still has Jeff Horn problems to this day. It will be funny to see Pac back on the juice for this fight shredded and juiced out of his mind.

 

Floyd Mayweather used drugs. He was caught red handed with circumstantial evidence. Because he used a masking substance, it's blatantly obvious he was on drugs. That said, he was never caught with a failed test, but with the masking substance there's about a 99.99% chance he was using PED's.

Pacquiao never got caught with failed test or masking agent. So there is far less hard evidence.

But with that said, we have never seen a guy rise from Flyweight champion to going toe to toe viciously with hard punching Featherweights like Marquez and Morales. Let alone going all the way up to Welterweight and sending massive Joshua Clottey flying all over the ring into a shell. And then going toe to toe and walking right through a legit Welterweight champ in Cotto and just overpowering him.

It would be one thing if Pacquiao boxed and moved against much bigger guys. But to just blow right through guys 3 times his size? It just looks weird. It doesn't look natural to me. Granted the guy has never been caught, but to plow through guys 3 times your own size? Something just looks off.

Regardless most of these guys are on something anyways.

 

Manny did mention yesterday he could go down as low as 135. All I can say is this: Manny came up from 135 to face Oscar de la Hoya and the results speak for themselves. Albeit de La Hoya looked old in that fight, if Keith really thinks of Manny as a lightweight, the only prediction of Manny Pacquiao doing what he did to de la Hoya coming true on Sstirday night is Manny doing the same thing to Keith and not the other way around.

 

Come on be fair though. By that time Pac was in his mid to late 30s. Had been fighting for over 20 years professionally. And had been in multiple wars with Marquez, Barrera and Morales. And had the Cotto and Margarito war too.

If Pacquiao was any other fighter, most people would say he was shot after the 1st Morales/Marquez fight because of how violent those fights were and how much punishment he took is those fights.

 

PBF wasn't caught he passed his test and was cleared by USADA and NSAC if he was caught the decision would have been reversed and ruled a no contest or Pac awarded the win. Those are facts. If you want to say he was suspect then fine but Pac was also suspect if not more based on his refusal to test earlier in his career which held up the fight with him and PBF in their primes and in Pac's style, like you said. You don't move up in weight and start throwing more retaining speed and power all the while overpowering and coming straight at bigger guys and not fighting defensively it's unheard of for a reason and worthy of speculation.

Now at 40 he's fighting Thurman with no testing and if he's shredded throwing 100 punches a round with blazing speed and power again and looking like it's 2010 more speculation should be warranted.

 

Agree that moving up in weight and coming straight at much bigger guys is unheard of. We haven't really seen anybody do it against guys who that much bigger than them besides Pacquiao. It's not like he moved up 1 or 2 weight classes and blew through slightly bigger guys. He was doing it to guys 3 times his size.

Will have to disagree about the Mayweather IV. He used a masking agent which is designed to hide PED usage, it's that simple to me.

 

Which is why it will be interesting to see how Pac looks in this fight with no testing. I thought Pac was ready to call it a day when he beat Lucas but it seems he's really looking to extend his career and wants to become a big factor again. In order to do this it wouldn't surprise me to see him juicing so he can hang with these younger prime fighters.

 

pac is a lightweight...what was josesito lopez then?