Tiberi got robbed against peak Toney

I don't deny it was his physical prime, but he was definitely having some motivational issues. He went thru a pretty long funk where he wasn't fighting anywhere near what he was capable of.

 

Really? If so, I apologize for saying you ignored me.

You still have that link? I'd appreciate it man.

 

Thank ya man. I've made a few purchases from boxingjunkies and while I like the site, I'm definitely willing to look around. Appreciate it.

 

I've never actually watched this entire fight. Toney's legs look awful in the highlight package.

My argument against Toney is that he had too many of these performances to excuse him in a legacy sense. Weight issues partly define him as a fighter, just as mental stability issues partly define Mike Tyson as a fighter.

McGrain, two questions:

1) How did you score the fight?

2) Was it a true robbery in the sense that one could not *possibly* arrive at the official outcome, or was it merely a *bad decision*? I realize you specified robbery, but just making sure you aren't using the words interchangably so I don't get confused.

 

I'm not sure what you're asking. My point is that JT is an immensely talented fighter who went thru a period where he wasn't fighting up to his potential, and you still really never know which JT is going to show up, the HOF'er or the lazy guy who just wants to lay on the ropes and counter. I really don't think we're disagreeing about anything here, and you're not making sense when you try to manufacture something.

 

It was a true robbery. JT didn't do anything, just stood there on the ropes and tried to avoid getting hit the entire fight.

 

Toney was in really the best stages of his career, and he clearly lost. Unquestionably a robbery. I don't see an argument for Toney winning at all.

 

Thanks!

 

Thanks, McG. I'm intrigued by your score given all the talk about this fight over the years. From the sounds of it, that 115-111 (was that it?) score in favor of Toney surely was a robbery score, though. Wow.