Was having a debate with a pal the other day. "Is it True that young amatuars turning pro, that cant sell tickets will not be successful in the pros" by promoters not putting them on their bill. Cant put a name of a boxer who couldnt sell many tickets but still managed to do well?! :think:think:think:think
I'm not sure cos many am's are known and get a rep in there area and people jump on bandwagon but many who don't sell tickets don't get good treatment that is true. I was told when offered to go pro 'you won't sell tickets so you'll be the away fighter' ie. I'm going to get bashed up by 10-0 fighters.
There is some truth in that. Those guys just become high risk low reward fighters and struggle for opponents. Though there have been plenty of good fighters who didn't catch the imagination early on, but did well through persistance. Look at Winky Wright. He was a great fighter, but not a box office draw, especially early in his career. No promoter would touch him when he set out, and he still has trouble getting on bills. But look at his last 6/7 opponents and compare them to Carl Froch who garnered massive publicity for the run of opponents he has faced, that supposedly no modern fighter would take on.
Speaking with Jamie Smith, he went for a meeting with one of the larger British promotors. He walked in the room, sat down, introduced himself and was promptly asked 'How many tickets do you sell?' As a result of being a Scot in London, the answer was obviously on the low side. From what I gather, he was offered a **** deal, and would basically be turned into a journeyman, even without having a paid fight under his name.
if your a small promotor, you have to rely on tickets to go to paying for some costs involved with a show. Unless you have a sponser it can be difficult to get up and running when you turn over .
He is back in london, but i'm not sure who he is training with. As far as I understand, he is going to see out the current season as an amateur, and look to attack the pros next year. IMO its a better move for him, as it will help build a fanbase.
i think hes back up here mate ... from waht ive seen ... Some promotors will make it work for there fighters if they have faith that they can make it something work and become a big star... if the ticket sales are crap they will really find it hard,its rubbish its that way but unfortunatly that is the way it is
If you cant sell tickets and have no name as such to draw an audience then you pretty much have to fight on the road. You get an easier ride if you have a fan base. But then again if you make it through the hard way then you will be better prepared than the pampered lot who sell **** loads of tickets.
I know he was back down here on the 20th, and I haven't ears anything about him going back up. I'm my saying you're wrong tho* Iffy at best to be honest. He told me he had about 30 amateur fights, but someone has been spreading a rumour that he only had 2, which would have surely shown up in training if that was the case
Yeah that's why i asked mate :good, i've heard the same rumour. He looked tidy on pads but i do wonder if he'll ever go pro.
Who knows mate. He is a nice fella, but it's hard for him down here by himself, and Scotland isn't the right place to be for him at the minute. I hope he gets everything sorted
Honestly ticket sellers make grands. Even a shot or never was fighter who's got a mini fanbase can make grands doing unlicensed.
Just think, what is the cut you get for selling a £30 ticket? Usually about £10. If you sell 100 or more (which some people do) you get at least a grand and the promoter gets 2g so while it isn't fair popular boxers will get special treatment from promoters who are just as crooked as the EBF promoters.